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Apple Sues Ex-Employee Who Allegedly Stole Apple Watch Secrets for Chinese Rival Oppo [Updated]
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you have to be seriusly mentally deficient not to know all you do on company devices is being monitored and retained, exactly for the purpose of scenarios such as this one, and especially for company being know to be secretive and having a truckload of intelectual propety to protect
if he's already in China - nothing else gonna happen other than he'll never be able to visit the US again.
If he's still in the US - there'll be a trial ...
If he's still in the US - there'll be a trial ...
Beyond the other reasons given . . . including possible governmental pressure, hubris, the fact that in general in Chinese society stealing trade secrets is considered a much less serious issue than in parts of the West (similar to how things were in the late 1800s and early 1900s in the US) . . . don't forget the universal and enduring reason. Greed. Simple greed is enough to explain this. The payoff for a successful competitor could be in the billions of dollars over time. Even a small slice of that is still a tremendous amount of money.
Our Tier 1 helpdesk makes $70,000 and knows Box is audited.
How much was this guy making? $400,000…
How much was this guy making? $400,000…
Recipes aren't patentable, in part because products aren't patentable. Only processes are. E.g. you can't patent scrambled eggs, you can't patent a recipe for a scrambled egg -- but if you were to devise a novel scrambling technique, THAT you could patent.
Patents are critical to how American technology companies have been able to justify spending billions on R&D, and by extension why engineers are so highly paid.
That isn't true of China. China is, in effect, the reverse: gaining knowledge wherever possible through poaching, deceit, reverse engineering or aggressive licensing agreements. China's tech companies still see themselves as catching up, even when they're directly competing.
In both cases it's how the respective countries have achieved the technological advancements they have, and these two philosophies are at odds with each other. That's why this is news.
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A thief. An educated, well paid thief. Let him do some hard time.
There is a big difference between training former farmworkers how to install specific tiny circuitboards with specific tiny screws on an assembly line (which is what that number you're quoting represents), and employing an individual expert to perform cutting edge research in the US under NDA.
China's home-grown tech product economy has a lot more to do with the millions of Chinese students who got their degree from a top school in the US and then couldn't emigrate here.
So people get mad when someone allegedly steals Apple's ideas, but are against other companies (e.g., Masimo, Fintiv, etc.) from suing Apple for stealing theirs???
Casual racism? On my MacRumors comments section?
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The author of the book 'Apple in China' would disagree. In 2015, Apple increased their investments in China by five fold to avoid being frozen out by the CCP. In the process, they have effectively subsidized the increase in technological skills across the board in China. This long ago moved beyond just simple assembly. It is hard to watch his interview on Unherd and not to come to the same conclusion.
How Tim Cook sold out Apple to China: UnHerd
A few numbers out of that talk is that since 2008 Apple has trained 28 million Chinese in their supply chain and they investing $55 billion/yr from 2015 which is four times Biden's Chips Act.
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As someone else pointed out. He’s gone back to China. Where nothing will happen to him. He probably was well paid for his efforts.
Mine isn't racism, thanks. It's national policy.
Things really haven't changed since I did undergraduate NSF research at Bucknell in 1981. The Chemistry department had a graduate student from China who was notorious for not being interested in his advisor's research but only would talk about the chemistry of concrete. The CCP had tasked him with finding out everything he could about the US concrete technology.
Yes, I've read the book, and I've reviewed the techniques he used to extract this data. Using his technique it is not possible to differentiate dollars spent training how to put on protective gear from dollars spent on chip fab post-docs -- except that if you divide the dollars spent by 2-5 million manufacturing employees, you don't get a number that looks like a massive amount of post docs (cost: ~100-500k per individual). You get a number that looks like training budgets, maybe with a few thousand post docs included in that mix.
Still trivial compared to the ~$100B Apple has spent on just US non-retail employee salaries over the past decade.
The reason it's hard not to agree with his conclusion is you're not actually executing any critical thinking. You're accepting his premise, numbers and explanation at face value.
An interesting analogy that I ran across the other day was Japan's attempt to reverse engineer a strategic four engine bomber in 1940 from a rejected Douglas DC-4E prototype that they purchased under a shell company. In Japan's case, they didn't have the manufacturing tech to do the aluminum alloy skin, the high pressure hydraulic lines or the high performance radial engines with temperature resistant alloys. It was a disaster. Compare that with China where Apple has effectively subsidized the transfer of manufacturing technology. The window to prevent China from reverse engineering is much narrower now due to that. Apple has basically created the dragon that will eventually consume them. Meanwhile, Apple's idea of innovation has degraded to rounding windows so they can display far less content. They really are regressing back to the HyperCard level of marketable products.
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