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We wouldn't be in this situation if "blue" threw out a competent candidate (and didn't wait til right before the election to can their "guy").
Exactly. Surely a good outcome is where you have several political parties with competent and respectable leadership and policies that are good for the country, making "who to vote for" an intellectual decision, not an emotional one.
 
Trump is not joking. Just listen to Steve Bannon, the wheels have been in motion for a long time. He doesn't need to be elected president. He can be a running mate to someone and serve as VP. The puppet president resigns, boom, Trump has his 3rd term. Anyone who doesn't take this seriously should.
I have yet to meet a republican willing to step down from President for anybody.

Plus, you still have to elect the puppet.
 
At least I got my Nintendo Switch 2 bundle preorder from Best Buy at $499 before a possible price increase over the summer. I don’t know if there’s a significant price increase coming for the 17 Pro I was thinking of buying. I hope not.
 
As stupid as these tariffs are, Apple shouldn't have been so over-reliant on one country for their supply.
 
I voted for this. It's time we finally end our dependence on China.

Also the whole plan is for countries to re-negotiate trade deals. For 30+ years the US has been screwed over with insane trade imbalances.

It would be very easy for countries to shore up their trade imbalance by purchasing US oil & LNG.
 
At least I got my Nintendo Switch 2 bundle preorder from Best Buy at $499 before a possible price increase over the summer. I don’t know if there’s a significant price increase coming for the 17 Pro I was thinking of buying. I hope not.
I bought a 15 Pro Max with a $200 discount and a $200 extra on my very old trade making the price $588. I figure I can wait until the iPhone 18. 🍎AI might be ready by then.
 
I voted for this. It's time we finally end our dependence on China.

Also the whole plan is for countries to re-negotiate trade deals. For 30+ years the US has been screwed over with insane trade imbalances.

It would be very easy for countries to shore up their trade imbalance by purchasing US oil & LNG.
Nice to know that there are people willing to cut their nose to spite their face.

Also trade is not a zero sum game. Yes, the US has an "imbalance" in exporting goods, but has a surplus in exporting services if you look at the number more granular.

In addition the US got a lot of softpower, meaning they could tell other countries what they liked, that thing will be harder as countries will orient them to other major players.

All you get are higher prices and... nothing else, as now a lot of countries are saying that the US is not a reliable partner anymore.
 
My intention is not to disrespect any of the Haters on here….but in all honestly and in all seriousness, I recognize you have concerns that are important to you. I get it. I really do. I see things differently and that doesn’t make me right and you wrong. But I have an opinion on things. And that opinion is that in a few years from now, objectively looking back, most of you will find an America that is stronger financially, stronger morally, and overall a better nation than we were before.

Time, measured in a few years, will tell. Let’s see how my post ages and then take the overall result from there.
 
That's a common myth. The wealthiest you speak of are actually anti-libertarian, free market economics. They frequently use cronyism as a means to increase their power and wealth. Those tippy-top earners are where they're at because of government, not because of the free market. I won't speak for all of them, but I don't think you'll find many libertarians that believe in gov't picking winners or cronyism, to consolidate power and wealth.

Ultimately, if ya boil it down, libertarian economic beliefs are about voluntarism, not statism, so any influence by the state is not "the market".

There's not a finite amount of wealth. There is no "pie" that is only that size and can't be added to. Wealth can and is created and in a market economy, both benefit because "the rich" make the goods the rest want and the rest are willing to pay for said goods.
The Kings of England and all the Dukes, Lords and Earls were Libertarians.

They had the money and for them that meant absolute power to do anything they liked. What they chose was to subjugate the poor, the pilgrims, steal their small wealth, rape their women and keep the spoils.

Libertarianism in its purest sense can’t work, in exactly the same way as communism or capitalism.

Your world of no taxes leads very quickly to : no road networks, no free education, no legal system to protect rights, no law enforcement, no street lighting, no opportunities for those born without to improve their chances. In fact it sounds like the Wild Wild West except someone shot the sheriff. Only the strongest survive.

Not my kind of place at all. I much prefer a liberal society, one in which everyone gets a fair crack at the whip regardless of their condition at birth.
 
My intention is not to disrespect any of the Haters on here….
Since you are using the term "haters" you are already disrespecting.

Furthermore you want your opinion validated but invalidating others with this term.

Genuinely I would be happy you are right, but there is no bright future ahead. Once everything is disrupted without any replacement it will be harder to get back on track. You can't just undo the damage as fast as you did the damage. It's easy to dismantle things, it's hard to get them back on track.
 
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Ya know what, you're simply trying to poke at me and start an argument and I'm not going to bite. If you're genuinely curious, there are answers to your questions accessible via simple Google searches and you can also read the writings of the Founders, where they plainly and eloquently explain their reasonings for not creating a pure democratic system.

You can call it absurd but the fact is as I stated. We are a Constitutional Republic.
Ever heard of a representative democracy? You should, because that’s what the USA are. So simple.
 
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You're comparing a man vs. a man.
One of the 2 has to be Trump. And that makes it a man vs a party nowadays.
I was talking about political parties. I think you're maybe cherry picking a bit there with your examples, but if you're expecting me to defend Trump's behavior or his economic plan, you're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not a Republican Party member. Officially, I am an Independent as I hold membership in no party. Ideologically, I just believe in liberty and property, keeping as much of what I earn as possible, and the non-aggression principle.
 
I voted for this. It's time we finally end our dependence on China.

Also the whole plan is for countries to re-negotiate trade deals. For 30+ years the US has been screwed over with insane trade imbalances.
That’s Trump rhetoric and you fell for these lies. Please explain…we import more from the USA than export to the USA. Why those tariffs?
It would be very easy for countries to shore up their trade imbalance by purchasing US oil & LNG.
 
I don't think all the government staff are low-IQ - they've just figured out that they can keep their positions/influence if they go along with Trump, even if they are aware of the damage this will cause.
That’s what low-IQ does. Obeying the dumbest power.
 
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Since you are using the term "haters" you are already disrespecting.

Furthermore you want your opinion validated but invalidating others with this term.

Genuinely I would be happy you are right, but there is no bright future ahead. Once everything is disrupted without any replacement it will be harder to get back on track. You can't just undo the damage as fast as you did the damage. It's easy to dismantle things, it's hard to get them back on track.

The first sentence of my longer post was in jest.
 
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