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Some people are taking the “iPhone on four wheels” comment too literally. In a fundamental sense he is correct. Cars are becoming basically computers on wheels. Obviously there will be a lot more to it than that. But I think in many ways tech companies are better suited to build the cars of tomorrow than most existing car companies are.
Saying cars are phones with wheels because they both have computers is like saying tigers are snakes with feet because they both have brains. I mean, sure... but, more importantly, no.
If you are hoping to see another miracle like iPhone then I feel you will be disappointed.
I’m with you on this.
1. I think it’s a major waist of resources for Apple since Siri is still on many fronts behind the competition, and although Neural computations on chip seem great for email filing prediction, picture computational improvements and features, it’s NOT enough to be pursuing an electric modern car.
- iPhone 12 has neural component in chip yet ALL models suffer Len‘s flare far too often.
- Siri still needs to be fixed:
Why can HomePod recognized MY voice in my home to read personal iMessages/Calendar/Email data to be relayed to me when “I” ask, yet not my son nor my sister? Why can I not have THAT on my iPhone?!
Now you want a car with AI to create?! NOPE! Get your house in order properly Apple - stop reaching to new things without fixing things you promised 5yrs ago: iMessage in iCloud was supposed to synergistically sync iMessages on Watch, Mac, iPad and iPhone … yet it does not.
I wonder when "they" said that, and who "they" was... considering that iPhones blew everyone away the moment the product was unveiled.
Yeah, the expectations here seemed pretty positive even before the release:
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But then, those were different times— everyone here was more positive in general.
Eh, Tesla's days are numbered. Specifically, I'm not seeing where they fit the auto industry once the rest of the pack starts delivering their own EVs - which is already starting. Within the next 10 years, most are targetting all-electric fleets. At that point, I'm unsure the differentiator Tesla could offer. Price? Not if an electric Honda Civic has anything to say about it. Luxury? Pretty sure the BMWs and Mercedes of the world would be pretty vocal. Performance? Not if Porche has their way. Right now, Tesla is at the tail end of the luxery that was "the only game in town." And while they deserve high fives for kick-starting the EV revoluition, I just can't help but think they will fade into the ether. Time will tell.
So where the heck does Apple fit in? As OSes become more prevalant, they have a direct interest in exploring those potential landscapes that will likely (and are) differ wildly from the computer-only days (it wasn't just yiPhones that saw them drop "Computer" form their name). I know many on these forums pine for the good ol' days when Aple just made cimpoters, but as lifelong user, supporter adn investor, it is imperative Apple continues to explore other avenues. If said exporation can make them a few bucks along the way, mor power to them. But the end goal is relevance in an ever-changing landscape. This will require courage (a word many here are fond of jabbing), grit, relentless curisoity and tireless persuit to travel paths unkown. With the car, they seem to be taking a similar approach as they did with the iPhone. Back in 2005, they partnered with Moltorola to offer the first phone with iTunes. The Motorola ROCKr was their Trojan Horse. The experience leading up to the ROCKr launch enabled them to take their always intended next step: launching their own handheld 2 years later. It seems CarPlay is serving a similar function, with most automakers playing the role of the ROCKr. As pohones started pairign with cars, the sheer volume of iPhoen users forced CarPlay into existence. Forced automakers to yield. Some tried their own infotainment systems. But none were the experince so many had coem to expect, iOS. So Apple launchign a car isn't as far-fetched as it might seem. Teh onyl thing I do know is that it will be interesteign to see how this allplays out. Should be fun, if you let it.
I guess you and I are not following the same tech sources. Right now, there is nothing that is even close to Tesla in terms of tech, performance, range etc.
Porsche you mentioned? Sure, their EV is nice but thats it. Its just 'nice' whereas look at the new S. Other EV makers can only dream of these specs.
Tesla has huge charging network, their battery tech is years ahead especially when they get the new tech out (this year?). Mercedes? They have nothing - all these luxury brands have just that now - their name and legacy that is going to be obsolete unless they start to seriously do something inventive.
Its like the iPhone introduction - even now that everyone copies Apple's iPhone no one is able to remove it from the top spot and I assume that will be the same for Tesla.
So, 13 or so years of iPhone and its still the king. We can revisit this conversation in few years time but I can tell you right now that I doubt that Tesla will lose.
Anything can happen of course but I don't see that happening just like I don't see iPhone having its days 'numbered' as you say with Tesla.
Apple - best smartphone
Tesla - best EV cars
Thats just how its going to be for the next 10 years or so. After that we can reevaluate
Porsche you mentioned? Sure, their EV is nice but thats it. Its just 'nice' whereas look at the new S. Other EV makers can only dream of these specs.
Tesla has huge charging network, their battery tech is years ahead especially when they get the new tech out (this year?). Mercedes? They have nothing - all these luxury brands have just that now - their name and legacy that is going to be obsolete unless they start to seriously do something inventive.
Its like the iPhone introduction - even now that everyone copies Apple's iPhone no one is able to remove it from the top spot and I assume that will be the same for Tesla.
So, 13 or so years of iPhone and its still the king. We can revisit this conversation in few years time but I can tell you right now that I doubt that Tesla will lose.
Anything can happen of course but I don't see that happening just like I don't see iPhone having its days 'numbered' as you say with Tesla.
Apple - best smartphone
Tesla - best EV cars
Thats just how its going to be for the next 10 years or so. After that we can reevaluate
I've driven a couple of Teslas and from user's perspective they're absolutely right. It's a giant computer that happens to have 4 wheels. Which is precisely why I hate Tesla (and Musk) with a passion - they cheapened and uglified the entire experience of car making it a stupid disposable device which is totally dependent on idiotic software updates. And Tesla loves to use Apple's methods of support, ie super tight control of what users can and can't do with their cars. As a car enthusiast this makes me puke so I'll stick with real cars where things are mechanical and I don't need a degree in hardware/software engineering to work on my car.
Lol. Tesla fanboi detected. Their cars are pure trash. Sure, they're pretty quick but honestly speaking very few people in the $100K+ luxury car segment care about extra .3s in 0-60 acceleration. And aside from acceleration Tesla doesn't hold a candle to BMW/Audi/Benz/Porsche. Tesla's interior is ugly, it's very cheaply made, that yoke is a sick joke and the whole thing just reeks of major cost cutting everywhere. On a $140K car. I won't even mention quality because we both know these cars are not in the same league. I've driven the previous version of Plaid - the P100D and I was shocked how absolutely awful it was for the money at the time minus acceleration. Honestly, BMW 3-series people could've been condescending towards that interior, build quality, ergonomics, etc, all at 1/3 of the price.
And Tesla has a much tighter control on their cars. I own an 1980s Porsche and to this day I can go a Porsche dealership and order practically any part for a 40yo car without an issue. Try ordering parts for your new Tesla without a VIN number, I dare you. They'll tell you to go away immediately. That's why I can't stand them.
Not sure what world you live in but yearly sales of iPhone are funny compared to yearly sales of all Android phones. So iPhone is far from the top and hasn't been on it for a while. No add a specific new feature coming to the next iOS (you know I'm talking about), I bet their sales will suffer even more.
Sorry to tell you but you're very very delusional on both. New players will bury Tesla and I sincerely hope that happens. If Tesla went down I'd be the first one to dance on their grave.