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Apple has asked Foxconn to start recruiting workers to assemble iPhone 14 models earlier than usual amid fears that China's lockdowns could lead to short supply or delays later in the year, United Daily News reports.

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Foxconn, Apple's main assembly partner, has reportedly launched a large recruitment drive for its factory in Zhengzhou this week, despite the season normally being off-peak for iPhone production. The company is said to have increased bonuses by 30 percent to attract more workers amid a pressing need to meet Apple's requirements.

Apple's instruction to increase recruitment at this time of year is ostensibly derived from continued strong demand for the iPhone 13 lineup and mounting concern about the impact of lockdowns in China on its ability to meet demand for the iPhone 14 in the second half of the year. Zhengzhou has been largely unaffected by lockdown measures so far, encouraging Foxconn to increase production capacity at the facility.

Apple briefly mentioned supply problems caused by lockdowns in China in its earnings call last week. DigiTimes recently speculated that parts of Apple's supply chain may be severely impacted depending on how long lockdowns persist, potentially even forcing Apple to delay the launch of new iPhone models later this year.

Earlier today, it was reported that Apple supplier Quanta is now gradually resuming production of MacBook Pro models at its Chinese plant following the easing of lockdown restrictions in Shanghai. The measures caused significantly extended delivery times for new MacBook Pro orders.

Article Link: Apple Supplier Ramps Up Hiring for iPhone 14 Production Amid Delay Fears
 
How bout if Apple made their iPhones in the US?
Maybe all the top executives would have to take a few less millions
but at least they have more control over their iPhone production.
Honestly, if that were to happen. I wouldn't mind paying double the costs of an iPhone.

My fingers are crossed there won't be any delays on the iPhone 14. Early head start is better.
 

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How bout if Apple made their iPhones in the US?
Maybe all the top executives would have to take a few less millions
but at least they have more control over their iPhone production.
Please forward your suggestion to Apple. Stat. For sure that has never crossed their mind, let alone analyzed.

Also... please advise Apple where in the US there are skilled human resources and physical infrastructure to manufacture and fulfill, on the average, roughly 190,000 iPhones per day. And be able to quickly ramp volumes up and down on a moment's notice, based on demand.

Also... to cover those additional costs, let them know how much more iPhones would need to be priced, and how that would impact sales.

Your views would be greatly appreciated.
 
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How bout if Apple made their iPhones in the US?
Maybe all the top executives would have to take a few less millions
but at least they have more control over their iPhone production.
It would be nice. I for one would be willing to pay a little more for a US made phone. BUT, I don’t know if there’s anywhere in the US that has enough skilled workers to actually make phones here. At least not at the volume needed.
 
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Honestly, if that were to happen. I wouldn't mind paying double the costs of an iPhone.

My fingers are crossed there won't be any delays on the iPhone 14. Early head start is better.

First you would not need to pay double.
If Apple spent less on share buybacks and maybe the top dogs for a few million less then they can sell the phones made in the US for the same price
 

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First you would not need to pay double.
If Apple spent less on share buybacks and maybe the top dogs for a few million less then they can sell the phones made in the US for the same price

Where in the US would suggest Apple go to find the required skilled human resources that can handle the logistics of parts sourcing/inventory, manufacturing, test, and fulfillment of 190,000 iPhones per day. And can quickly ramp volumes up and down on a moment's notice? And do all that at the quality level Apple and its customers demand?
 

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How bout if Apple made their iPhones in the US?

Just read the headline to get 1 reason why thats not an option.
It's highly seasonal and there just isn't a horde of migrational workers waiting to do 12h shifts at an Apple plant.

Sure you could stretch it out over the full year, but that would mean that they would either start production for a new model much earlier making it older at release or you start at the same time as now and end up with wait times past XMas before supply can catch up with demand.

Only (semi) realistic option is a highly automated fab with >10% of the workforce compared to what is used in China but even getting and retaining those 1000s of specialists needed would be a problem.

So maybe start smaller, make sure you have a trained workforce (and not just college degrees) make sure that workforce gets treated well and concentrate on making high value products (a phone ain't not, it's just high priced) and let the cheap masses do what is best done by the cheap masses.
 
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Where in the US would suggest Apple go to find the required skilled human resources that can handle the logistics of parts sourcing/inventory, manufacturing, test, and fulfillment of 190,000 iPhones per day. And can quickly ramp volumes up and down on a moment's notice? And do all that at the quality level Apple and its customers demand?
Granted, this would not happen over night. I believe Apple could make it happen though.
I believe with the political climate in China Apple could face a total loss of production.
Will Apple continue to make iPhones in China and will the US government permit them to keep
selling them in the US when China starts it military aggression?
 

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Only (semi) realistic option is a highly automated fab with >10% of the workforce compared to what is used in China but even getting and retaining those 1000s of specialists needed would be a problem.
THis. But I think we've all invested enough in China at this point and need to invest more in
The US and that includes more tech education.
 

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Granted, this would not happen over night. I believe Apple could make it happen though.
I believe with the political climate in China Apple could face a total loss of production.
Will Apple continue to make iPhones in China and will the US government permit them to keep
selling them in the US when China starts it military aggression?

China's tech infrastructure evolved over decades with *massive* Chinese government subsidies. That's just not going to happen here, for a variety of reasons. As an aside, the costs to develop that infrastructure and human resources would be astronomical. iPhones would quickly cease being competitive.

The US government would have to get behind this in a similarly aggressive manner. I don't see that happening. Lobby your politicians if you really want to see this happen.
 

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Remember when they said there'd be production delays in the 13, and then there weren't? And how they said the same about the 12 and there weren't? And they'd said the same about the 11, and there weren't......
 

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China's tech infrastructure evolved over decades with *massive* Chinese government subsidies. That's just not going to happen here, for a variety of reasons. As an aside, the costs to develop that infrastructure and human resources would be astronomical. iPhones would quickly cease being competitive.

The US government would have to get behind this in a similarly aggressive manner. I don't see that happening. Lobby your politicians if you really want to see this happen.
Sure. And Apple is a pretty forward looking company.
They may decide that they have to do more here if the choice is no iphones
or move to the US. I know this topic has come up many times and to no avail.
Interesting times.
 

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Funny, India and Brazil forced Apple to build locally. And other companies have been setting up lines for Apple as well.

It's hard to argue that Brazil has more skilled workers than the US. India, well, they have a different kind of skill.

Certain parts of the process require skill. Certain parts require a different kind of skill. Saying that every Foxconn worker is a skilled worker is ridiculous, especially since they could train kids to do it in a short amount of time (before the child labor thing happened).

There isn't some magic fairy dust in China that makes the Chinese (or Taiwanese) inherently more skilled at assembly.
 

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Funny, India and Brazil forced Apple to build locally. And other companies have been setting up lines for Apple as well.

It's hard to argue that Brazil has more skilled workers than the US. India, well, they have a different kind of skill.

Certain parts of the process require skill. Certain parts require a different kind of skill. Saying that every Foxconn worker is a skilled worker is ridiculous, especially since they could train kids to do it in a short amount of time (before the child labor thing happened).

There isn't some magic fairy dust in China that makes the Chinese (or Taiwanese) inherently more skilled at assembly.
All good points! And those countries do not pose the threat that China does militarily.
 
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I wonder how China continuing to pursue a "zero Covid" strategy will impact production.

I noticed in passing a story on the nightly news that lockdowns in Shanghai were a possibility. They were talking about further disruptions to the global supply chain, etc.

It's been a heck of a lousy couple years for globalization. Between the 'Rona, the war in Europe, that container ship getting stuck in the Suez, and all the shipping issues.

I imagine a lot of manufactures are going to consider onshoring some production in the near future. Price savings are good, but you can't make money if you don't have anything to sell.
 

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How bout if Apple made their iPhones in the US?
Maybe all the top executives would have to take a few less millions
but at least they have more control over their iPhone production.
Are you going to pay for the higher expense of teens assembling or adults assembling the iPhones or for advanced plant that has no human interaction for manufacturing assemblies but we still gotta deal with parts supplies from Korea China etc. so not quite a full solution

Regarding the news its first week of May right on time for production schedule and lunch and shipping in late September

EDIT: Snooze was changed to news (typo originally).
 
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Are you going to pay for the higher expense of teens assembling or adults assembling the iPhones or for advanced plant that has no human interaction for manufacturing assemblies but we still gotta deal with parts supplies from Korea China etc. so not quite a full solution

Regarding the snooze its first week of May right on time for production schedule and lunch and shipping in late September
I thought production usually starts around by end of June?

 
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Each year, I see this in the news, with the exact same picture. I bet the lady in the image has five kids now "is that legal in China now" ?.
 
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