Apple Suppliers Donate to Restore Fund for Sustainable Forests and Other Carbon Removal Projects

[Crom!]

I like seeing stories like this but then again one must be rooted in harsh reality. For what reason does company so freely invests so much money for the sake of climate management but at same time contributes so much to the pollution, e-waste, deforestation, and habitat destruction of 3rd world and developing nations? A company that enjoys virtue signaling via "green-washing" PR stunts. But lets say they truly want to stop or reduce the impact on climate change. Would it make more sense to move all mining of rare earth metals and other materials in nations that actually hold companies accountable to strict environmental standards? Since almost 99.99% of Apple's sourced materials comes from nations that don't care one way or another for the environment and even less so to the labors that toll in collecting these materials it's kind of joke to see stories like this. A trillion dollar company and its contracted partners "invest" a couple million dollars for environmental conservation is like chump change. A tax write off....

 

[steve09090]

Because it’s meant as a distraction
Don’t take Apples bait

The results speak for themselves. Even if their billion dollar programs of sustainability did nothing (which of course is what you think), being at the front of the conversation is still productive.

I agree

Stop ripping everyone off on RAM and SSD upgrades

Even in a thread about environmental programs, people still have to whinge and whine about RAM upgrades 😂😂

 

[svish]

Good to hear about companies doing their bit to protect the environment.

 

[vicviper789]

Letting employees work from home reduces the number of cars on the road and the amount of pollution generated from the need of manufacturing the vehicles along with needing to pave over half the earth.

Until apple allows remote work, they can get lost with their "feco friendly" virtue signaling

 

[Oscar_440]

This is a tiny drop in the ocean of what is actually required... by everyone.

And it's hilarious that people have comments downvoted just because they suggest companies should be better about prolonging the lifecycles, upgradability and serviceability of their products.

The refresh cycle of iPhones and Apple Watch, are in particular, too high now considering the market is saturated and matured. They need to focus on bigger updates between generations. That leaves more time for R&D, optimisation and quality control between releases.

Apple could easily create a system for Macs where the logic board can be swapped out easily, either at home or at Apple Store, to upgrade a device from one M series to another. That way you'd actually have the ability to upgrade RAM if your workload changed, and you wouldn't have to get an entire new system 😂

A win-win Id say.

Fully agree. The main problem is that most of companies does not really care about environmental. They put on the table good practices in order to make people think they're eco friendly. They're not, (insert here your full comment)

 

[nikaru]

Hey Apple, what about the snow-white packaging of your devices instead of using recycled paper (aka trees)?

 

[Jaspers dog]

Scotland cut down 16 million trees to build planet saving wind turbines. To fully understand climate lunacy follow the money.

SNP admits to felling 16 million trees to develop wind farms

Scottish Tory MSP Liam Kerr said figure would astonish the public and communities all over the country had cited concerns about the projects

www.telegraph.co.uk

This story has been misrepresented. Forestry Scotland cut down 16 million trees over a 20 year period including to clear space for wind turbines whilst planting 20 million trees a year, in total during that period 274 million trees were planted. "To fully understand climate lunacy follow the money" and it will take you to the most profitable companies on Earth, big tech and fossil fuels, take a look at the NASDAQ there's no 'big renewables' in there.

 

[Jaspers dog]

Yes, on all three counts.

Oopsie...

This story seems to be a largely positive piece about the effort being made to recycle or reuse solar panels and wind turbines. Not really sure how it serves your argument?

 

[zoozx]

Hey Apple, REMOVE **** "end of life" **** on products and save the planet!

 

[sleepybear723]

carbon emissions is the latest eco buzzword trend. The creation of carbon dioxide is easily calculated and advertised, that’s why. Has anyone here had an independent thought and asked themselves, is carbon dioxide really bad, what are the current atmospheric levels, what is a harmful atmospheric level, how much emission in tons does it take to get to that level and what is the current natural offset or intake?

To summarize my opinion based on facts and data, this is just all corporate and political virtue signaling.

Please, get help and form an independent thought of your own.

 

[Jaspers dog]

carbon emissions is the latest eco buzzword trend. The creation of carbon dioxide is easily calculated and advertised, that’s why. Has anyone here had an independent thought and asked themselves, is carbon dioxide really bad, what are the current atmospheric levels, what is a harmful atmospheric level, how much emission in tons does it take to get to that level and what is the current natural offset or intake?

To summarize my opinion based on facts and data, this is just all corporate and political virtue signaling.

Please, get help and form an independent thought of your own.

Can you point us in the direction of some 'independent' facts and data that conclude that current levels of carbon emission aren't significantly affecting the climate?

 

[hagar]

I like seeing stories like this but then again one must be rooted in harsh reality. For what reason does company so freely invests so much money for the sake of climate management but at same time contributes so much to the pollution, e-waste, deforestation, and habitat destruction of 3rd world and developing nations? A company that enjoys virtue signaling via "green-washing" PR stunts. But lets say they truly want to stop or reduce the impact on climate change. Would it make more sense to move all mining of rare earth metals and other materials in nations that actually hold companies accountable to strict environmental standards? Since almost 99.99% of Apple's sourced materials comes from nations that don't care one way or another for the environment and even less so to the labors that toll in collecting these materials it's kind of joke to see stories like this. A trillion dollar company and its contracted partners "invest" a couple million dollars for environmental conservation is like chump change. A tax write off....

Why would a company invest in climate management? Is this a serious question?

As a company Apple has the obligation to survive in the long run. And as many companies it has identified climate change as an existential threat. To its supply chains, its international markets, its daily operations, its resources, its customers, …

Companies like Apple realize they need to align economic and ecology. So, is it virtue signaling and greenwashing? In my opinion no because they have set strict goals for themselves that go way beyond what other companies are doing. If every company would do what Apple has set out to do, we’d go a long way.

 

[Anonymous123]

There’s a difference between critical and cynical. One questions and aims to be objective, the other only makes negative assumptions and blindly tears down. MR is overrun with the latter.

I would argue there are also those who are blindly defensive. There is definitely a spectrum and it’s probably best to be somewhere in the center between the cynics and the apologists. Whichever population MR is overrun with, I’d rather it be people who have more criticisms, simply because without critics a company tends to rest on its laurels and take advantage of its users, who will defend the company no matter its choices. I’m not advocating mass negativity for the sake of it, but some of the critics in this thread have solid points, even if they include some hyperbole.

In the end a forum is a place to have a discussion, which sometimes includes debates and differing opinions. I’d say let’s continue to hold Apple to a high standard, and analyze the purpose behind each of its moves, without taking each decision immediately at face value.

 

[steve09090]

I would argue there are also those who are blindly defensive. There is definitely a spectrum and it’s probably best to be somewhere in the center between the cynics and the apologists. Whichever population MR is overrun with, I’d rather it be people who have more criticisms, simply because without critics a company tends to rest on its laurels and take advantage of its users, who will defend the company no matter its choices. I’m not advocating mass negativity for the sake of it, but some of the critics in this thread have solid points, even if they include some hyperbole.

In the end a forum is a place to have a discussion, which sometimes includes debates and differing opinions. I’d say let’s continue to hold Apple to a high standard, and analyze the purpose behind each of its moves, without taking each decision immediately at face value.

Yet many of the people here are complete haters of individuals, like Cook, Job, Ives etc. I wouldn’t mind the criticisms but some people are plain nasty. Criticism is fine. Even being cynical is fine (because who really trusts big companies), but keep the personal attacks on people out. A race to the bottom. Let’s keep it to discussion.

 

[sleepybear723]

Can you point us in the direction of some 'independent' facts and data that conclude that current levels of carbon emission aren't significantly affecting the climate?

Yes, but I’m not your research assistant. I asked you to become literate in the subject on your own.