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That's brilliant! You should email this to Tim ASAP.

..how people think they are smarter than Apple's best managers and executives.:mad:

"Apple's best managers and executives"!! they don't know what the heck they doing man. It took apple 3 years to make an iPhone with a larger screen and now less then a month before relies they go "back to the drawing board": :mad::mad: dude just be quiet and enjoy your small scree iPhone 5:rolleyes:
 
Except that...

This obsession with thinness really needs to put on pause. There's a point where I don't want my phone to be so thin that it feels like it will snap in my hand or shatter if it hits the edge of a desk, etc.

I actually prefer something a little heavier. Obviously not too heavy - but given the way ALL smartphones are these days - I happily choose longer battery over thinness.

Except that the iPhone won't feel like it's going to snap in half. Thin, light, better battery life and solid.
 
Are you suggesting that the MacRumors groupthink is premature in evaluating a product that hasn't been officially announced yet? I think it's fair to pass judgement even if we know nothing about the A8 processor and other hardware-plus-software integrations.

I mean, I have no idea what I'm going to eat for dinner next Thursday but I just know it's going to stink.

Totally. The only reason people buy Apple products is because they're mindless sheep who don't know any better and think the kool aid tastes good. :D
 
Except that the iPhone won't feel like it's going to snap in half. Thin, light, better battery life and solid.

No, no, that gentleman has a fair point. Have you held the latest iPod touch? It's unrealistically thin. It's so thin that it snapped in half just by looking at it.
 
"Apple's best managers and executives"!! they don't know what the heck they doing man. It took apple 3 years to make an iPhone with a larger screen and now less then a month before relies they go "back to the drawing board": :mad::mad: dude just be quiet and enjoy your small scree iPhone 5:rolleyes:

It is indeed possible that those that don't work for Apple might know more/better. Just because they don't work for Apple - doesn't mean they aren't qualified or have a valuable/ediucated opinion.

Except that the iPhone won't feel like it's going to snap in half. Thin, light, better battery life and solid.

yeah - I disagree. Thanks.
 
Or add a case, like everyone

No, no, that gentleman has a fair point. Have you held the latest iPod touch? It's unrealistically thin. It's so thin that it snapped in half just by looking at it.

I like the iPod touch. But if you want something heavier and better battery life, slap a battery case on it. Nearly everyone I know puts a case on their phone. So if it's thinner, it will result in a thinner, overall phone with the case.

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yeah - I disagree. Thanks.

So you've held the new iPhone 6? Oh cool. Pics please!
 
This obsession with thinness really needs to put on pause. There's a point where I don't want my phone to be so thin that it feels like it will snap in my hand or shatter if it hits the edge of a desk, etc.

I actually prefer something a little heavier. Obviously not too heavy - but given the way ALL smartphones are these days - I happily choose longer battery over thinness.


1) A thicker phone with a bigger heavier battery will be MORE fragile when dropped. Lighter phones are less likely to break if dropped. Force = Mass x Accereration.

2) This is trite comment. The ideal thinness will always be the "current thinness." The next step in thinness will always be "a bridge too far". Rinse and repeat. A pointless cycle of disapproval.

Don't listen to these people apple, keep doing your thing.
 
Great, issues with the back light. That makes me want to jump in on the pre-order line. Perhaps this time its not worthwhile to be on the bleeding edge.

Agreed. And I won't be able to choose size until i can hold both in my hand. I don't have confidence that both will ship the same time. Reasons to sit on the sidelines for a bit!
 
Apple is at $101.08 so the bears need production issue news to try and stop the rise.
 
Iphone 6 is going to be a straight beautiful metal solid slab that is ultra thin and covered in a possible sapphire/synthetic sapphire display O yes!
 
Apple is at $101.08 so the bears need production issue news to try and stop the rise.

Pretty much. Then the phone will be announced and have record sales first weekend and these production issues will suddenly vanish.
 
This smells like a load of BS to me. Every year it's the same thing. Production problems -- poor dumb Apple has really screwed up this time.

Last year it was predictions of catastrophically low supplies or something. Apple went on to sell record numbers of the flagship model on launch weekend.

Don't believe everything you read.
 
Two supply chain sources said display panel production suffered a setback after the backlight that helps illuminate the screen had to be revised, putting screen assembly on hold for part of June and July. One said Apple, aiming for the thinnest phone possible, initially wanted to cut back to a single layer of backlight film, instead of the standard two layers, for the 4.7-inch screen, which went into mass production ahead of the 5.5-inch version.

Today's date: August 22...
 
1) A thicker phone with a bigger heavier battery will be MORE fragile when dropped. Lighter phones are less likely to break if dropped. Force = Mass x Accereration.

2) This is trite comment. The ideal thinness will always be the "current thinness." The next step in thinness will always be "a bridge too far". Rinse and repeat. A pointless cycle of disapproval.

Don't listen to these people apple, keep doing your thing.

I can admit that I thought that the iPhone 4 was ugly as my sister. Until I used it in person. The phone, that is. I thought it was a remarkable job of craftsmanship. Black lines and glass back and all. And then the iPhone 5 came out. Disappointed again at the ugliness of it. If the lines in the band on the iPhone 4 weren't ugly as I initially thought then surely the glass inlays in the iPhone 5 were a design sin. Oh, and the thinness. I didn't understand the need to make it thinner as the iPhone 4 I thought was perfect in terms of weight and thinness. Then I held the iPhone 5 in person and appreciated the fit and finish of the product. Also understood the need to make it thinner as they went from 3.5 inches to 4.

(Same with software experiences. I didn't think iOS 7 was the aesthetic nightmare many were bemoaning it to be but I was disappointed. Until I used it and understood the thinking behind many of the changes.)

I had a chance to try out the new iPod touch and I enjoyed the fact that it was so thin. Unrealistically thin. And it seemed obvious that this was the direction future iPhones would be taking. Thin as possible, especially when increasing the display size for better thumb reach.

Concerns over fragility are nugatory. My girlfriend absolutely resisted buying a MacBook Air only because it was so thin and light that she had concerns that the aluminum unibody would "break in half." She absolutely made a fuss over it. She eventually bought one after being unimpressed with Windows 8 and looks back on her comment as embarrassing hyperbole.
 
I can admit that I thought that the iPhone 4 was ugly as my sister. Until I used it in person. The phone, that is. I thought it was a remarkable job of craftsmanship. Black lines and glass back and all. And then the iPhone 5 came out. Disappointed again at the ugliness of it. If the lines in the band on the iPhone 4 weren't ugly as I initially thought then surely the glass inlays in the iPhone 5 were a design sin. Oh, and the thinness. I didn't understand the need to make it thinner as the iPhone 4 I thought was perfect in terms of weight and thinness. Then I held the iPhone 5 in person and appreciated the fit and finish of the product. Also understood the need to make it thinner as they went from 3.5 inches to 4.

(Same with software experiences. I didn't think iOS 7 was the aesthetic nightmare many were bemoaning it to be but I was disappointed. Until I used it and understood the thinking behind many of the changes.)

I had a chance to try out the new iPod touch and I enjoyed the fact that it was so thin. Unrealistically thin. And it seemed obvious that this was the direction future iPhones would be taking. Thin as possible, especially when increasing the display size for better thumb reach.

Concerns over fragility are nugatory. My girlfriend absolutely resisted buying a MacBook Air only because it was so thin and light that she had concerns that the aluminum unibody would "break in half." She absolutely made a fuss over it. She eventually bought one after being unimpressed with Windows 8 and looks back on her comment as embarrassing hyperbole.

On the flip side - so much "hate" towards any phone size over 3.5" - and recently 4" - and yet...
 
I can admit that I thought that the iPhone 4 was ugly as my sister. Until I used it in person. The phone, that is. I thought it was a remarkable job of craftsmanship. Black lines and glass back and all. And then the iPhone 5 came out. Disappointed again at the ugliness of it. If the lines in the band on the iPhone 4 weren't ugly as I initially thought then surely the glass inlays in the iPhone 5 were a design sin. Oh, and the thinness. I didn't understand the need to make it thinner as the iPhone 4 I thought was perfect in terms of weight and thinness. Then I held the iPhone 5 in person and appreciated the fit and finish of the product. Also understood the need to make it thinner as they went from 3.5 inches to 4.

(Same with software experiences. I didn't think iOS 7 was the aesthetic nightmare many were bemoaning it to be but I was disappointed. Until I used it and understood the thinking behind many of the changes.)

I had a chance to try out the new iPod touch and I enjoyed the fact that it was so thin. Unrealistically thin. And it seemed obvious that this was the direction future iPhones would be taking. Thin as possible, especially when increasing the display size for better thumb reach.

Concerns over fragility are nugatory. My girlfriend absolutely resisted buying a MacBook Air only because it was so thin and light that she had concerns that the aluminum unibody would "break in half." She absolutely made a fuss over it. She eventually bought one after being unimpressed with Windows 8 and looks back on her comment as embarrassing hyperbole.

Is your sister still ugly? :D
 
So the idiot decision to try one layer is going to cause shortages. Great. Way to go thin-obsessed Apple. Please focus more on longer battery life than thinness,
 
So the idiot decision to try one layer is going to cause shortages. Great. Way to go thin-obsessed Apple. Please focus more on longer battery life than thinness,

wouldn't a thinner screen allow for a thicker battery?
 
Thin, thin, thin! Pathetic. Folks at Cupertino think this is innovation? Do they not understand the correlation between one-handed operation and thickness of the device? The curved display is to make edge swiping more natural and intuitive but do they think it'll be easier by making the device thinner?

I notice that the MacRumors groupthink is strong on this issue as it was in the past. Jony Ive's industrial design group of fifteen really need to be disassembled and replaced with people with at least some smattering of common sense.

You need to build the technology first, then stuff it in a pretty box. Can anyone honestly admit to themselves that what counts as innovation is designing a concept first and then building the technology? Exactly. You begin by building the biggest battery you can reasonably afford for a hand-held device. Then all the other components and then finally wrap it up in a pretty design. THAT'S innovation, folks. The iPhone 5 is thin enough. Just stretch it out to fit a 4.7-inch display and call it a day. Making it thinner will not afford extra thumb reach whatsoever. Common sense.

I'm afraid this concept is lost among the Cupertino folks as they've reached to some bizarre conclusion that size and weight are a premium.

Innovating IS inventing something or improving something so it becomes more efficient (works better or fits into a smaller space to save space). Innovation is NOT taking off the shelf parts and putting them together and wrapping it in a pretty case. If we took your advice we would end up with a big brick bedazzled with Swarovski crystals.
 
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