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Google "PQ earbuds" and you'll find them. Haven't tried out myself and I'm pretty sure there are many issues and caveats with that design, but Apple is pretty good in solving such problems when they really decide to do so.
Are Google's PQ earbuds identical in its functionality, feature sets, blah blah blah as those of the Apple equivalent?
 
Nothing inherent about it. If consumers demand environmentalism, they become compatible.
I disagree (respectfully)

Please elaborate.

because I don't understand or see how they would become compatible in any logical, manufacturing, natural resource, heat and/or CO2 producing way.

If you could explain how that could be fixed in a consumerism /product manufacturing/supply chain way. I'd strongly reconsider my position.

They only way I can think of people "accepting/thinking" its zero-net polluting and sustainable is just plain old manufactured consent and marketing.
 
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It is thinner than any user upgradeable laptop.

Thankfully this is now moot with Apple deciding to prevent that from happening for the past few years.
Sure sure sure, just build a laptop that could only be replaced rather than being repaired, even though there’s just one resistor going bad inside. Apple’s non-existent “recycle” could deal with it lol.
 
I disagree (respectfully)

Please elaborate.

because I don't understand or see how they would become compatible in any logical, manufacturing, natural resource, heat and/or CO2 producing way.

If you could explain how that could be fixed in a consumerism /product manufacturing/supply chain way. I'd strongly reconsider my position.

They only way I can think of people "accepting/thinking" its zero-net polluting and sustainable is just plain old manufactured consent and marketing.
I’m not trying to be obtuse, but where’s the conflict? Ask an environmentalist what their priorities are. If consumers adopt those same priorities, then an economy driven by consumerism is compatible with environmentalism. The logic isn’t that deep...

There are practical challenges in aligning the the two -isms, but nothing “inherently incompatible”.
 
I’m not trying to be obtuse, but where’s the conflict? Ask an environmentalist what their priorities are. If consumers adopt those same priorities, then an economy driven by consumerism is compatible with environmentalism. The logic isn’t that deep...

There are practical challenges in aligning the the two -isms, but nothing “inherently incompatible”.
wow, yep that did it.

The lack of depth of logic definitely convinced me thanks.
 
How much heavier or bulkier are these rival earpods?

I'd love user replaceable batteries but will it mean physically larger and heavier laptops and smartphones?
trade offs.

IPX certified water/dirt resistance? most likely not.
Glued glass wireless charging? probably not.

There have been thinner and lighter phones and laptops in the past that had user replaceable batteries in them. But none of them had the features listed.

If a lot of those machines (primarily smartphones) were supplier software supported I'd still be using a 2014-2015 smartphone.

but the laptop batteries is BS. They definitely don't need to glue them in. I've worked on many old and current laptops and they can add brackets and screws no problems. the physical dimensions of the batteries and space inside of the new(er) MacBooks have plenty of space and bracket-able rails/areas that they could easily add a bracket and screw them down no problem.
 
Sure sure sure, just build a laptop that could only be replaced rather than being repaired, even though there’s just one resistor going bad inside. Apple’s non-existent “recycle” could deal with it lol.

Last November Apple announced self service repair.

It doesn't equate to buying 3rd party storage or memory to increase them

Greenpeace ranks Apple ahead of the likes of Dell, HP, Samsung, and Amazon. By sheer volume of impact it is better than any company ahead of them.
 
trade offs.

IPX certified water/dirt resistance? most likely not.
Glued glass wireless charging? probably not.

There have been thinner and lighter phones and laptops in the past that had user replaceable batteries in them. But none of them had the features listed.

If a lot of those machines (primarily smartphones) were supplier software supported I'd still be using a 2014-2015 smartphone.
Earlier models do not have the storage nor raw performance relative to what Apple has output in the last decade.

The original Palm Pilot is thinner, lighter and has user upgraeable bits relative to a iMac 24".
 
I’m not trying to be obtuse, but where’s the conflict? Ask an environmentalist what their priorities are. If consumers adopt those same priorities, then an economy driven by consumerism is compatible with environmentalism. The logic isn’t that deep...

There are practical challenges in aligning the the two -isms, but nothing “inherently incompatible”.
Environmentalists dance around what needs to be done to get the wanted outcome due to their fear of being defunded.

So environmentalism ends up being a marketing tool to appeal to deep pocketed individuals who want to save the world.

While the bottom 80% of the world just want something they can afford. Environmentalism is nice to have but isnt a necessary concern.
 
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Maybe they should take some of the crap out of their fancy boxes that people dont use, like all the inserts and fancy cut outs. Maybe put a cord back in there that people would actually use instead of forcing them to buy more packaging for a cable that should have already been in the box
Exactly. Why doesn’t Ferrari start building their cars with plastic!?
 
Seems like a lot of work has to be done to meet targets by 2030.
That’s why we’re already getting articles about Apple pushing suppliers so hard. Apple is serious about their timeline. Apple will catch hell if they don’t meet it. We already have posters here saying Apples’s recycling is fake news.
 
I'm just annoyed how Apple keynotes continuously boast about their environmental targets while they are turning a blind eye to most obvious solutions. Sure, I understand the business logic behind it, but that doesn't make it less hypocritical.
Here’s a thought; what if, after analysis, your ’obvious solution’ actually turns out to be worse for the environment? Your statement sounds intuitively true, but do you know if it’s actually true?
 
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You know what Apple gets for being Environmentally Friendly? Zip, nada, nunca!

***** SICK.

p.s. I like that they are EV Friendly but... whoopty doo
 
Companies need to focus on high quality low cost. I don’t want a lower quality higher cost because it cost more to produce just to virtue signal. Great Reset much?
 
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