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Apple Surpassed Samsung as World's Largest Smartphone Maker in Fourth Quarter

digger10 said:
Wouldn't that be a function of Apple shifting its the iPhone launch from Sept to October, as you say, due to the pandemic? It would make sense that more iPhones were sold in the 4th quarter.
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Yes.

digger10 said:
Similarly, one would guess Samsung shifting the S21 launch this year back from March to Jan would depress sales in the quarter immediately before it?
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Right.

Like I said, I wouldn't extrapolate too much information from this unusual year.
 
WBRacing said:
True, but then he is worth over $80,000,000,000.

I'd probably chuckle at a showing of Bambi, if I was worth that much...
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I don't think that was a "I am rich" chuckle so much as "I'm overlooking a fundamental market shift that's about to happen" chuckle.

At the time, most cellphones weren't smartphones at all, and those that were were basically a niche enterprise segment*. He didn't anticipate that smartphones were about to become so good that "feature phones" and other low-end cellphones would largely disappear from the market.

*) Which largely ran Blackberry, PalmOS, Symbian, or Windows Mobile. All of those basically disappeared within half a decade. A very unusual shift.
 
Yes, it's great when a team you like wins the World Series or a movie you like wins an emmy or a tech company you like comes out with great sales figures. Never understood cheerleading for a team either.
 
chucker23n1 said:
I don't think that was a "I am rich" chuckle so much as "I'm overlooking a fundamental market shift that's about to happen" chuckle.

At the time, most cellphones weren't smartphones at all, and those that were were basically a niche enterprise segment*. He didn't anticipate that smartphones were about to become so good that "feature phones" and other low-end cellphones would largely disappear from the market.

*) Which largely ran Blackberry, PalmOS, Symbian, or Windows Mobile. All of those basically disappeared within half a decade. A very unusual shift.
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Oh I know. I was just implying that despite being wildly wrong, I doubt he cares much.

Given some of his onstage antics, I could just as easily have suggested that he had done a couple of lines of coke and been in giggle mode.
 
All these people celebrating the fact that apples slowly slipping into a monopoly. jesus christ

this is why all the competitors are coming up with 120hz dual sided foldable phones and apple is still putting out the old same tired notched 60Hz flattened iPhone X design and taking accessories out of the box while charging more. Apple did not earn this
 
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Surprised people buy such an ugly phone with notch, no mask friendly fingerprint authentication, no pencil support, etc. I'll wait for a redesign.
 
rp2011 said:
Good news on the face of it. But concerning too if the trend continues too far, with antitrust issues and oversaturation.
Also, healthy competition drives innovation and staves off the inevitable stagnation that comes whenever someone has a healthy lead over the competition.
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I just love posts like this. When Apple is stagnate then other companies like Samsung are celebrated here for having more market saturation. When Apple is doing well then this forum wants competition to bring Apple back down. Sometimes this place.....UGH. 🙄
 
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Maconplasma said:
I just love posts like this. When Apple is stagnate then other companies like Samsung are celebrated here for having more market saturation. When Apple is doing well then this forum wants competition to bring Apple back down. Sometimes this place.....UGH. 🙄
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It’s not the same group of people. You do realize that we’re not all just one big hivemind? “this macrumors guy just won’t make his kind up… UGH” 😂😂😂
 
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WBRacing said:
Oh I know. I was just implying that despite being wildly wrong, I doubt he cares much.

Given some of his onstage antics, I could just as easily have suggested that he had done a couple of lines of coke and been in giggle mode.
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He recently(?) commented on the "developers" thing, arguing getting people galvanized was important.
 
Suckfest 9001 said:
All these people celebrating the fact that apples slowly slipping into a monopoly. jesus christ

this is why all the competitors are coming up with 120hz dual sided foldable phones and apple is still putting out the old same tired notched 60Hz flattened iPhone X design and taking accessories out of the box while charging more. Apple did not earn this
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For now, I'll take an old notched phone over a $2,700 foldable phone. For me anyway, a foldable phone has to be worth the $1,300 over a notched phone, in these times of lockdown. (Maybe if I were the type of person, who wants new tech no matter what I would buy the phone)
 
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I7guy said:
For now, I'll take an old notched phone over a $2,700 foldable phone. For me anyway, a foldable phone has to be worth the $1,300 over a notched phone, in these times of lockdown. (Maybe if I were the type of person, who wants new tech no matter what I would buy the phone)
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Oh you’d take anything they tell you to take, otherwise these forums wouldn’t exist would they
 
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Does this explain why Samsung announce that starting with 2019 model high-end Samsung phones, they will offer three years of Android version updates and four years of security updates?
 
Td1970 said:
Good for Apple I guess. Never understand the cheerleading for a business. I buy their product because it works for me. If it didn’t I would buy it. Hating or shilling us stupid.
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Not anymore stupid than people coming here just to hate on Apple when they release a new product and these trolls haven't even touched the product. I don't know why it bothers you that people are excited about good news for Apple. That means Apple is working hard and the public likes what they are offering.
 
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Maconplasma said:
Not anymore stupid than people coming here just to hate on Apple when they release a new product and these trolls haven't even touched the product. I don't know why it bothers you that people are excited about good news for Apple. That means Apple is working hard and the public likes what they are offering.
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Wow so defensive. Guess we all know what your side. 🤦‍♂️ I did say hating it shilling. Way to ignore stuff that gets in the way of your pulpit.

doesn’t bother me in the least. buy what you like. I do. I buy my Apple devices. I just dont worship a business.
 
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mi7chy said:
Surprised people buy such an ugly phone with notch, no mask friendly fingerprint authentication, no pencil support, etc. I'll wait for a redesign.
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Well, you can fool some of the people some of the time....comes to mind.
 
I7guy said:
Who is they? I guess when runs out of ideas on how to respond to the post, a subtle ad-hom is thrown around. 🙄
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Don't trip about it. There's a couple of anti-Apple people trolling on this article today trying to piss people off. Don't waste your time. They are limited.
 
dabi said:
Apple is slowly becoming a monopoly, especially when it comes to the high-end market. That's concerning.
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In terms of premium pricing Smartphone Apple has always been dominating in that segment. So this is not new.

It is only a concern now Apple's App store policy is in focus.
 
With Android being a commodity now and so many low cost Chinese brands, it makes it difficult for manufacturers like Samsung to want to stay in the market.
I can see Samsung eventually decide it’s not worth it.
 
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