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Apple Suspends Program That Lets Employees Listen to Siri Recordings for Quality Control, Opt Out Option Coming
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I have to say, the word that bothers me most here is “contractor”. They need data to improve Siri. I don’t see a way around that. I expect Apple would have closer control over employees than contractors though. By definition, contractors are only marginally attached to the company and, I suspect, only marginally attached to the companies values.
Well that goes straight out the window...
And it is accompanied by data which can identify the user.
The Guardian quote:
"The whistleblower said: “There have been countless instances of recordings featuring private discussions between doctors and patients, business deals, seemingly criminal dealings, sexual encounters and so on. These recordings are accompanied by user data showing location, contact details, and app data.”
source:
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings
So Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple are all the same...
On the flip side, I've lost count of the number of false activations, mostly Siri announces "sorry i didn't understand that". The watch is really bad for that, random triggers when I'm just sitting talking, the phone can have an "essay" on the screen as it's picking up a full conversation thinking it's a question and the latest incident at work was I'm sitting at my desk talking to someone, my watch in on my wrist, the phone is on my desk and the ipad which was in a bag a few feet away suddenly announces "here is a list of all you upcoming appointments" and starts telling the world what i'm up to. There's personal stuff on there.
It's quite cr@p really. And when you want it to actually do something for you it can be a battle of wills. It always good for setting timers when cooking though. They've cracked that one at least.
Your conversation is not sent to Apple. But to CONTRACTORS!
Read this article on the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings
Why does Apple continue to talk pure S regarding SIRI? SIRI is pathetic. Don’t agree, just ask SIRI to play a radio station on HomePods. Only occasionally will SIRI be able to do that simple task correctly. And, SIRI’s ignorance on homepods is astonishing! Apple’s use of the word ‘great’ in connection with SIRI is delusional. BTW, I have only ever used SIRI. I am unable to compare it to any other assistant.
That Apple, unbeknown to users, records and allows anyone to listen to our utterances, let alone ‘contractors’ totally invalidates, nullifies, and exposes everything Apple has ever said about privacy as a lie!
Be WARNED, EVERYTHING Apple has ever said about Privacy or SIRI is pure marketing BS!!!!
That Apple, unbeknown to users, records and allows anyone to listen to our utterances, let alone ‘contractors’ totally invalidates, nullifies, and exposes everything Apple has ever said about privacy as a lie!
Be WARNED, EVERYTHING Apple has ever said about Privacy or SIRI is pure marketing BS!!!!
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The masses: We demand you make Siri better
Apple: Ok, well do that. In order to do that we need people to listen to randomizes clips of real audio from Siri users.
The masses: UNACCEPTABLE! We demand you make it better but not that way.
Apple: That’s literally impossible but fine whatever, well let you opt out.
If you use Siri but opt out you are leeching off anyone who stays, and when enough people opt out they won’t actually be able to improve Siri, so kudos. Great job you selfish paranoids.
Apple: Ok, well do that. In order to do that we need people to listen to randomizes clips of real audio from Siri users.
The masses: UNACCEPTABLE! We demand you make it better but not that way.
Apple: That’s literally impossible but fine whatever, well let you opt out.
If you use Siri but opt out you are leeching off anyone who stays, and when enough people opt out they won’t actually be able to improve Siri, so kudos. Great job you selfish paranoids.
Apple LITERALLY tells you they do this when you turn on Siri. It has published this information publicly the entire time it’s been happening. It was NEVER SECRET that Apple was doing this. It’s utterly necessary to compare actual audio with what the system thinks it said in order to improve the system, the only way to do that is to have a human listen. That’s always been true, it will always BE true. And it’s NEVER been secret. There is no scandal here, just paranoid ignorant people freaking out over nothing.
And where exactly is the opt out option? When you set you Alexa it actually tells you during the setup about its privacy and what you can opt out off... it doesn’t bury it in a 2 thousand word license agreement...
Also all your doing is highlighting the hypocrisy of Apple fans who complain and attempt to prove Google and Amazon are utterly evil companies who spy on your whilst defending Apple and its joke privacy policies and ad campaign.
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Where does it say that in the privacy policy?
But keep moving the goalposts....
Haha the best gif I’ve seen!
It outrageous, isn’t it. You know what I’d do if I were you? I’d never ever come back to, or leave a comment on, an Apple centric website again. I’d just get on with my life and leave it all behind. Live your life of Alexa and perhaps Android and even Windows. Evil Apple will never trouble you again.
Go now, and live your best life! You’re free!
Don’t forget all the posters saying they are quitting that platform or bragging they never signed up to use it because they knew they were shady.
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Hmm probably best that your not me, I am capable of criticising Apple and can see the hypocrisy of it all..
This just shows that Apple doesn't value privacy unless it is a selling point. From a company's perspective that is totally clear and logical. From the user's standpoint you have at least to realise that Apple would not add an opt-out feature nor care about privacy if it wasn't a selling point. Apple didn't start caring about privacy, they simply use it to their advantage that they make so much many anyways that they don't need additional income by user data like Google does. If selling your data would be beneficial to Apple, they would do it without hesitation.
It always takes these huge blows by media to finally change something. Like with the iPhone throttling that you couldn't disable at first to analyzing speech input for Siri which now all of a sudden gets an opt-out feature.
It always takes these huge blows by media to finally change something. Like with the iPhone throttling that you couldn't disable at first to analyzing speech input for Siri which now all of a sudden gets an opt-out feature.
Oh thank you for your hard work. It’s often unappreciated, isn’t it. Do you publish a newsletter we can subscribe to?
That’s exactly what they’re going to to. The suspension is temporary while they make changes to the software to allow an opt in option and likely review security around who has access to the recordings.
Except that Google, Amazon, and Facebook haven’t immediately stopped doing all their privacy-invasive practices, even after being caught out.
The reason people trust Apple isn’t because Apple are noble and pure. It’s because their business model is totally different.
Google, Facebook, and Amazon all depend *massively* on user data for their business model to work. They simply *cannot* genuinely respect your privacy or their businesses would fail.
Apple, however, can. Doesn’t mean they don’t make mistakes, but they are fundamentally different from the others.
Nothing is anonymous, but if you want, they can tell you it is, free of charge.
Privacy is a marketing term used to sell iPhones as much knowing what you do and providing you with all you with data about your surroundings and what may interest you is to Android users thanks to Google, and each to their own on their preferred platform.
Apple is as evil as the next trillion dollar company in what they do with your data along the line somewhere. Getting caught and adding options to opt out is pretty sad, they should have been there in the first place if privacy was Apples goal or we all should have read the privacy blurb on our phones! You don't get to be CEO of a company like Apple by being Mr nice guy I'm sure, but by knowing how to spin marketing spiel to your advantage like "what happens on your iPhone stays on an iPhone" well didn't the spin doctors do Tim proud.
When will people realise there is no privacy on the web and you can have all the privacy tools and VPN's you want, because I bet they don't help that much in reality. It feels like they are a comfort blanket for the paranoid who are aware how much our data is leaked, yet I'm pretty sure any government can circumnavigate these attempts at anonymity online no matter the mission statement of whatever super private VPN you use. In fact you may even give more away using them by believing you are safe. Damn I'm way to cynical.
I trust Apple with all my data.
If they feel this anonymised data would bring us all a better product, we should get right behind them. Ignore the critics, keep building the best products - the Apple way.
If they feel this anonymised data would bring us all a better product, we should get right behind them. Ignore the critics, keep building the best products - the Apple way.
I do not know if you are sarcastic or not.
But in this case your data is not anonymized.
Check the article of the guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-hear-confidential-details-on-siri-recordings
I'm staying opted in. I need Apple to hear the arguments I sometimes have with Siri. Especially with relation to playing the non-explicit versions of songs when I have explicit turned on.