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Sorry, but that report said absolutely nothing and added exactly zero to what we know/don't know


Woof, Woof - Dawg
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Agreed...we already know what it "might" be.
 
A good bit of new sexy? Who's writing the headlines this afternoon?

I'm actually dreading the tablet. I think the whole concept is really cool, but a "new" OS probably means another system like there app store. I don't like the direction that's going, with everything being censored by Apple. Computing should be getting more open, this is a really bad trend.
 
Those quotes are semantically equivalent to:

"It's black, but it's not black"
"It's nice"
"It gerbil kangaroo cheese"
 
I'm hoping for -

* true unrestricted multi-tasking ( unlike iPhone / Touch )
* Open platform where Apple aren't the gatekeeper / judge for what applications users can / cannot run on their own devices.
* Where developers are free to deploy to their device without paying apple $99 ( unlike iPhone ) - relates to above
* Not SIM locked if purchased outright ( i.e., no carrier contract )
* a damned good device :D

You might as well add Flash and a 500gb hard drive because all you're doing is dreaming.

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I'm worried that the sheer cost of the device is going to tremendously hinder its success.

The product is going to have to be so tremendous, that the drive to own one is going to have to force people to find ways to buy it.

The iPhone benefitted big time from ATT's subsidizing.

Personally, I know that I'm going to want to own one, but I'm not sure if it'll be feasible for me. :(
 
New sexy vs. old sexy

Call me jaded, but when I'm in the mood for a "sexy user interface" I seek out a real live human female. Cold, inanimate devices just don't get me excited...
 
You might as well add Flash and a 500gb hard drive because all you're doing is dreaming.

http://✪df.ws/eer

Yes, dreaming - sadly.

In the non Apple world, these would be no - brainers - developers and users alike *would expect* an open device, that can multi-task and install any application they like, without being carrier locked if purchased out right.
 
Not sure if want.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody here really cares whether or not you want it.

As for the news, I think it's basically what we are all expecting. A form factor similar the the iPhone, but bigger. An OS that is more capable than the iPhone, but doesn't require a mouse and keyboard.

We all know that Apple isn't just going to release a large iPhone. They are going to add the extra "one more thing" that makes the front page of CNN and is on everyone's local news channel. This device is going to be marketed to the millions of people who already own iPhones. Knowing that should indicate that there's definitely something new/fresh about it...
 
Just let me do native software development on it, please. Not like the iPhone currently where Apple bans anything that runs "arbitrary code"; I want a code editor, compiler, and debugger running on the target platform.

One annoying limit of the iPhone is it must be tethered to a "real" computer at times. Free the device; empower it and its user to run independent of anything else. My notebook is about to die; I _will_ buy an iSlate, but would rather not have to get yet another computer just to enable it.
 
Yes, dreaming - sadly.

In the non Apple world, these would be no - brainers - developers and users alike *would expect* an open device, that can multi-task and install any application they like, without being carrier locked if purchased out right.
I think you're probably going to be right about 1) multi-tasking and 2) carrier agnostic. I would expect those, even of Apple, even on iSlate.

The other stuff... nope, I don't think, not so much.
 
Sorry, but that report said absolutely nothing and added exactly zero to what we know/don't know


Not the point, Dawg. Now Apple will have the media referring to their new thing as sexy.


Apple is playing this like a Beethoven symphony. A little bit of nothing every day as we keep our name in the headlines and try and put CES out of mind.
 
I guess this thing will mainly be for people who want to surf the web on a screen bigger than the iPhone/Touch. I might have been interested if it were running OS X, so I could use Word on it with handwriting recognition (I doubt Word will get ported to the iPhone OS), plus all my regular programs. Oh well.
 
One annoying limit of the iPhone is it must be tethered to a "real" computer at times. Free the device; empower it and its user to run independent of anything else. My notebook is about to die; I _will_ buy an iSlate, but would rather not have to get yet another computer just to enable it.

Good call, but if you want music on it, you better buy all of your music from iTunes. I doubt this thing will have an optical drive.

You're going to need a second computer to transfer your old files, unless you're planning starting from a clean slate; pun intended.
 
Just let me do native software development on it, please. Not like the iPhone currently where Apple bans anything that runs "arbitrary code"; I want a code editor, compiler, and debugger running on the target platform.

One annoying limit of the iPhone is it must be tethered to a "real" computer at times. Free the device; empower it and its user to run independent of anything else. My notebook is about to die; I _will_ buy an iSlate, but would rather not have to get yet another computer just to enable it.

why on earth would you want to run the compiler/debugger/editor on the device? it would be far slower, and you don't have the advantage of being able to run at full speed while debugging/monitoring.
 
I think you're probably going to be right about 1) multi-tasking and 2) carrier agnostic. I would expect those, even of Apple, even on iSlate.

The other stuff... nope, I don't think, not so much.

You may be right about about multitasking but I think you're wrong about it being available to more than one carrier. AT&T can't even provide tethering for the iPhone and Apple loves those high carrier subsidies.
 
Not the point, Dawg. Now Apple will have the media referring to their new thing as sexy.


Apple is playing this like a Beethoven symphony. A little bit of nothing every day as we keep our name in the headlines and try and put CES out of mind.

Any Mac veteran should know that Apple is in middle of releasing a major product, yes in the middle. This is Apple slowly and masterly advertising their new product to the world via slow controlled leaks and some stupid crap like this reports. The type of hype right now is Apple's kind of hype, not fan/media boring annoying type of hype that we have seen of the tablets over the past several years.
 
A third operating system? It's getting annoying to deal with OS X and the iPhone OS alone. Now we get to "learn" a third :-(

You seem to misunderstand the current situation. The iPhone OS is a variant on Mac OS X-- basically, "Mac OS X mobile 10.3". The core is the same, and even a lot of the graphics libraries etc. are the same.

I suspect this means we could have a third flavor of Mac OS X. My guess is it will be mostly like Mac OS X, plus the iPhone APIs for iPhone-compatible apps.

However, you are probably right that the GUI will be somewhat new. It's bound to be a hybrid of elements that are familiar from Mac OS X and iPhone OS, plus some changes to make it all work as a large touch screen.
 
You may be right about about multitasking but I think you're wrong about it being available to more than one carrier. AT&T can't even provide tethering for the iPhone and Apple loves those high carrier subsidies.

It can if you didn't upgrade past 3.0 :D
 
Call me jaded, but when I'm in the mood for a "sexy user interface" I seek out a real live human female. Cold, inanimate devices just don't get me excited...

You're not jaded, you're just thinking too small. Why choose between two options? Have a threesome!
 
why on earth would you want to run the compiler/debugger/editor on the device? it would be far slower, and you don't have the advantage of being able to run at full speed while debugging/monitoring.

I don't think speed is the big problem here. If there's no hardware keyboard, I'm going to say it's going to be a very miserable experience for coding plus the screen is not going to be pretty good for looking up references/docs/manuals while coding.

Now coding on macbook pro with tablet being used as secondary screen is a completely sane idea.
 
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