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Apple Takes 104% of All Smartphone Profits Following Galaxy Note 7 Recall
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I'm hopeful that the Pixel might nudge Apple a bit. Also hope Samsung gets their crap together for the Note 8. I like Apple products, but I also like for strong competitors to be able to keep them motivated. Honestly, if I could, I would own a Pixel, and a Note 7 if there were no battery issues, in addition to my 7 Plus, because I just really love using and tinkering with different tech.
You can sell a ton of devices, sometimes more than previous years, and still lose market share. Doesn't necessarily have a negative impact on your profitability, as Apple has demonstrated.
This is probably the one and only year we will see this phenomenon (unless Samsung screws up again next year). Still, let's just bask in this glorious moment and savour this moment for what it is.
To the victor belongs the spoils.
Do I understand this correctly? Apple has less market share than Samsung, and because of Samsung's Note 7 issues (and losses) that Apple's standing rose, and this article makes it sound like that Apple did something great with record relative profit standings? I call BOGUS. Yet another Rah-Rah-Rah BS article.
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Like a race where all but one of the contestants falls dead during the race and we all celebrate the one remaining contestant winning? What a VICTORY, right? A win due to someone else's misfortune.
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Like a race where all but one of the contestants falls dead during the race and we all celebrate the one remaining contestant winning? What a VICTORY, right? A win due to someone else's misfortune.
This is why users should be mad at users, not Apple. We continue to pay a high premium (hence high profit) for products with user experience compromises. If consumers spoke with their wallets, Apple would backtrack on some of these design decisions that don't benefit the user. Case in point was the iPod Shuffle with no buttons.
Carriers are to blame as well. If it weren't for the free iPhone 7 trade-up offer from AT&T, I would have kept my iPhone 6 for another year, mainly because I didn't want a phone without a headphone jack. But I caved because I wanted 32GB, better camera, and better processor for no additional cost to me. Apple still got their full profit too I'd imagine. One more example of the "not good, but trying to get used to it" cycle that we rarely had with Apple products, but is now all too familiar for me (dongles, 12" Macbook keyboard, Apple TV 4 remote, etc.).
Carriers are to blame as well. If it weren't for the free iPhone 7 trade-up offer from AT&T, I would have kept my iPhone 6 for another year, mainly because I didn't want a phone without a headphone jack. But I caved because I wanted 32GB, better camera, and better processor for no additional cost to me. Apple still got their full profit too I'd imagine. One more example of the "not good, but trying to get used to it" cycle that we rarely had with Apple products, but is now all too familiar for me (dongles, 12" Macbook keyboard, Apple TV 4 remote, etc.).
Another random sales metric with no base number. Just place it with the new macbook pro is best selling mac on the apple store!!! And everything is great! Right!?
Love the mentality - Did not do anything better, just the people around did mistakes so that makes them better! Lets celebrate
We should just call Apple the new Pepsico.
Love the mentality - Did not do anything better, just the people around did mistakes so that makes them better! Lets celebrate
We should just call Apple the new Pepsico.
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What is bogus about the numbers?
If I make 10 widgets, sell them for a profit of $1 each,
you make 100 widgets, but sell them for a profit of 1 cent each,
I've made $10, you've made $1 - and I have 91% of the profit in the market.
It's all numbers. Android is mostly on cheap stuff with low (or negative profits), while Apple makes a majority of the high end phones with all the profit.
These are FACTS, not bogus rah-rah.
It blows my mind that people actually argue this makes sense. A loss is a loss, not a profit. Also Apple doesn't report profit by product so how do we even know what their iPhone profits are? And do any Android OEMs report profits just for smartphones? If not where are these numbers coming from.
Did you read the article? The only reason Apple got those numbers was due to Samsung's massive losses over the Note 7 issue.
Yet, the article says "If accurate, the estimates represent the first time Apple has achieved smartphone industry profits of over 100 percent - an impressive number for a company owning only around 12 percent of the market. "
Again, a race where the leader falls out of the race and the 2nd place runner walks across the finish line and is celebrated. Rah-rah-rah, indeed.
What would have been impressive is Apple achieving over 100 percent without the Note 7 issue.
Nokia is dead.
Blackberry no longer makes its own phones.
Sony has issued a timeline for a potential exit.
Microsoft has no plans for a smartphone anytime soon.
HTC is back to being a contract manufacturer for Google.
LG just can't seem to make a profit.
This is Apple lapping the pack multiple times over, then adding insult to injury by moondancing backwards past the finish line while the rest of the competition is struggling just to hobble past the starting line.
You are darn right it's a VICTORY.
Yes, let's celebrate Apple's 13 percent market share while we (YOU, basically) ignore Samsung's 21 percent market share.
The article didn't say Apple's "record standing" was because of Blackberry or Sony or Microsoft or HTC or LG. It's because Samsung had a loss.
But you keep cheerleading for Apple.
Leader?
Have I somehow ended up in some alternate reality where the iPhone never became a success?
Even at the peak of their profitability, Samsung never came anywhere close to matching Apple.
Leader indeed.
There probably is a better way of reporting this. Assuming these numbers are anything close to accurate (which I don't) it just says Apple's smartphone business is profitable while others aren't. But how do we know this considering very few if any smartphone vendors report profit and loss just on their phones. Even Apple doesn't do that.
Did you know that 40 out of 27 people say they have problems with statistics?
That's 104% Seems some of those people work for Apples "creative accounting" dept.
That's 104% Seems some of those people work for Apples "creative accounting" dept.
Market share is the means. Profit is the end.
Ask any company out there if they would rather have Samsung's market share or Apple's profits.
I know which I would rather prefer.
Do you ever address what is written or do you always deflect and change the subject? Did I ever say the iPhone never became a success? Stay on topic.
It's close to a victory, but Apple really needs to force more of those companies to pull out of the phone market. I doubt Samsung is leaving the mobile market, but large companies have been known to shed money losing units.
Even smaller competitors can cost you profit because they force you to change at a quicker pace and that change costs money. To have a true monopoly and make the sort of money Apple fans can only dream about a few of those larger companies still competing need to pull out.
Ask any consumer if they would prefer lower prices and less corporate profit, or higher prices (lower value) and excessive corporate profits.
I know which I would rather prefer.
Great! Now they've got the extra cash they can drop the price on the new MBPs. Good to know they're not struggling.
Your post suggested that Samsung was first and Apple was second, and that Apple claimed the lead only because Samsung stumbled.
As far as profits was concerned, Apple was never second. Apple has, and has always had, the lead in the race.