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Apple's far overdue for a horrendously massive, embarrassing failure.

Honestly it would be good for them, to knock them down off their pedestal and knock their excessive hubris down a couple notches.

Apple REALLY needs a failure to put them back in their place, IMO. They've forgotten who they are, and what they are supposed to be doing/building/developing.
 
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puma1552 said:
Apple's far overdue for a horrendously massive, embarrassing failure.

Honestly it would be good for them, to knock them down off their pedestal and knock their excessive hubris down a couple notches.

Apple REALLY needs a failure to put them back in their place, IMO. They've forgotten who they are, and what they are supposed to be doing/building/developing.

Why?

Nearly everything they touch turns to gold. You can thank them for everything from user-centric interfaces to smartphones to tablets. They're simply expanding their content distribution network into ads and other things. Chances are, they'll do very well.

Are they doing too well for your tastes? Do you feel they should slow down and not embarrass the clueless also-rans so much?

Enjoy their upcoming quarterly report.
 
apple needs a way to unify their offerings if they keep branching out like this. too many logins. they need an Apple portal page, where you can access all your stuff. use your AppleID to log into mobileme, itunes, facetime, ping, and this new social thing all in one place. if they really want to compete w/ google they'll have to do something like that.
 
apple needs a way to unify their offerings if they keep branching out like this. too many logins. they need an Apple portal page, where you can access all your stuff. use your AppleID to log into mobileme, itunes, facetime, ping, and this new social thing all in one place. if they really want to compete w/ google they'll have to do something like that.

Maybe that site in NC will be the start of that... It's so big that astronauts in the space station can see the lights on the east coast dim every time Apple switches it on. :rolleyes:
 
I quess it would work if you are going to buy only one product. But if you have both hands full with cases of beer for the husband and a pack of kids roaming arround, my bet is that you are not going to look at your phone to see what your friends want to wear.:D

-> how unconvenient to walk arround with your phone in one hand when you are going in and out a dressingroom, trying everything on that your digital friends are suggesting. I need two hands to put on a pair of jeans or any other piece of fabric :confused:
 
Oh please. Are there not already 1,000 well-established sites that offer "consumer" product reviews of goods. Amazon (.com and .co.uk) are abou the only two I'll ever bother to read.

We may rubbish it, but it's a small initial investment for Apple, so if it works it make money, if not, it's cost a small amount that will be tax-deductible.

Perhaps we need to remember it's aimed at your average Windows user, who may be used to being easily lead by one line user reviews and fills their life with cheap rubbish, no-name TVs, French cars, Windows 7 Home Basic.
We all know Apple owners nearly always judge quality for themselves, or need a strong volume of positive feedback before an item gets our attention.
 
Oh please. Are there not already 1,000 well-established sites that offer "consumer" product reviews of goods. Amazon (.com and .co.uk) are abou the only two I'll ever bother to read.

We may rubbish it, but it's a small initial investment for Apple, so if it works it make money, if not, it's cost a small amount that will be tax-deductible.

Perhaps we need to remember it's aimed at your average Windows user, who may be used to being easily lead by one line user reviews and fills their life with cheap rubbish, no-name TVs, French cars, Windows 7 Home Basic.
We all know Apple owners nearly always judge quality for themselves, or need a strong volume of positive feedback before an item gets our attention.

ROFL...

ah...wait...

I definitely like my Peugeot 207CC, my Samsung Galaxy and my Kinect.

And Apple...well, they really have to force you into upgrading OSes as they still don't match Tiger's Spotlight elegance. And that's why I refuse the iPhone. It's a mass product, and it's not quality!
 
Apple's far overdue for a horrendously massive, embarrassing failure.

Honestly it would be good for them, to knock them down off their pedestal and knock their excessive hubris down a couple notches.

Apple REALLY needs a failure to put them back in their place, IMO. They've forgotten who they are, and what they are supposed to be doing/building/developing.

In Appleland there exists no failure. Only 'hobbies' :p
 
Oh no, say it's not so! This is the day my mama warned me about. I just can't believe it. It's so fantastic that I literally cannot think. I just never dreamed it would happen.
 
The best products for me are typically not what "the masses" are choosing. How horrifying to want to be just like everyone else; a faceless drone doing and buying what someone else tells you is cool.

Apple continuing on it's path to appeal just to the dumbest members of the public by constantly feeding them solutions that involve no thinking at all.

Just push the button. No brains or research necessary.

It's this sort of thing that is making the Apple community some of the most technologically-retarded users in the world.
 
I'm waiting for a pipeline that goes from my fridge to the store with a touch panel menu on the fridge door so I can order the groceries I need.... that will be the day. :D

Already there. The "RFID fridge" was demo'ed about three years ago. It read the RFID tags of the items you regularly stock. If it was missing for an overnight period, it would place the missing item in the next weeks shopping list. The flat panel display in the refrigerator door lists what it recommended you order, you tap "Buy" and the items are delivered to you that day.

FYI this was the long term goal of WebVan. The RFID they were betting on didn't roll out fast enough and they went under.
 
Please Concentrate On What Made You Great...Originally

Your OS, computers, and lately....igadgets.

Leave the social networking, product tracking, and other BS to companies like Google.

Your core talent is already spread too thin....and it shows.
 
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The first patent sounds like sharing a link with your peers to gain advice about a product. How can you patent this? I hope the application gets tossed out the window. Patents are getting so rediculous and are going to start impeding innovation due to law suits and strong arming. I'm all for patenting truly innovative ideas. But this kind of patenting is abusing what patents were intended for.
 
Your OS, computers, and lately....igadgets.

Leave the social networking, product tracking, and other BS to companies like Google.

Your core talent is already spread too thin....and it shows.

shows in what? sure ping kinda sucked but thats just because there's already established competition for that. anything hardware-related sure doesn't show a lack of engineering talent
 
Apple's far overdue for a horrendously massive, embarrassing failure.

Honestly it would be good for them, to knock them down off their pedestal and knock their excessive hubris down a couple notches.

Apple REALLY needs a failure to put them back in their place, IMO. They've forgotten who they are, and what they are supposed to be doing/building/developing.

Agreed. I came to Apple looking for a computing solution, not this iDevice/social networking/TV crap. And now they're not just abandoning their computers, but actually ruining them slightly. Glossy displays, mini-DP, pretty much everything seen in Lion... I kind of wish the iPod had never taken off, then we might be seeing some really innovative computers right now, not oversized iPhones and disused social networks. I've already decided I won't be upgrading to 10.7 assuming what they've shown so far is all Lion will have to offer. I'll see what OSXI brings, and if it's nothing amazing, I'll probably move to Linux. I do kind of miss building my own computers.
 
Why?

Nearly everything they touch turns to gold.

That's exactly the problem. They keep polishing turds, and keep branching out into crappier and crappier things. They are becoming a very mediocre company, really starting to produce a lot of mediocre, useless crap. This, ping, that other **** patent about touchscreens for your damn stovetop, etc. They are starting to really get a mindset that anything and everything they touch will turn to gold and is good, when lately a lot of the stuff they've been looking into is just absolutely retarded, and I think they could use a real failure to put that back into perspective.

I still am not convinced they can build a solid, reliable computer either.

I'll enjoy my earnings report (not that I care), you enjoy your stock halving overnight when Jobs dies without so much as consideration for the shareholders to tell them there is a medical problem, just like every other time he's been sick and shareholders only found out after the fact.
 
I've been using Unix since version 7 (and even back then, knew enough to be able to unhang wonky device drivers using the debugger on the kernel in write mode, so as to postpone the need for a 45 minute reboot of a PDP-11 during busy times), and am definitely not some sort of clueless click-monkey, but for the most part, I like OS X better than any other workstation OS. I wouldn't use it for a server (except specifically to support OS X workstations; otherwise I'd pick Solaris for a server), but for interactive use, it's more of what I could want than anything else I've tried. Linux isn't evil or anything, but it's certainly not my thing. Too many design decisions were made for reasons I disagree with, and as an independent implementation, all the code in the original Unix heritage (v7, SysIII, SVR2 through SVR4, and even the BSDs) that I've read doesn't do me all that much good for figuring out quickly what the heck Linux is up to (what idiot went with overcommit-by-default+OOM killer? I'd rather get less done but have deterministic results than have stuff die semi-randomly! That's of course gotten better,
but it's just one example of something _I'd_ never had done like that).

Still, there are places where OS X needs work. The kernel could be more robust (I don't hang it up as often as I would Windows, but a lot more often than I would Solaris.) The userland RPC routines are horrible, compared to Solaris or even recent FreeBSD. I find myself using both MacPorts and scrounging other odds and ends from elsewhere (including porting some things from Solaris). Those are of course not the places that add the typical Mac sort of glamour, so they do tend to get neglected.

So...is Apple abandoning OS X just because they're into all this consumer and network stuff? I don't think so. I like my old iPod touch just fine, and will probably be an early adopter if and when there's a Verizon iPhone. But the apps for those get developed and written on OS X; and while I haven't gotten into that yet, I suspect with care one could write a full-blown OS X app that shared maybe 2/3 of its code with smaller versions optimized for the iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad. Contrast that with Windows and Windows Mobile: there are poor misguided fools that like Windows, but I've not heard of many at all that like Windows Mobile.

I think that the direction is that desktop, mobile devices, consumer appliances, and web (including - yuck - "social") services, and "cloud" services, all should work fairly seamlessly together. The desktop still serves an important role in that picture (for anything too flexible for a locked-down portable device or appliance, and for development), and I think Apple is doing as well as anyone to get the whole spectrum of these things (except for servers!) in place.
 
Apple's far overdue for a horrendously massive, embarrassing failure.

Honestly it would be good for them, to knock them down off their pedestal and knock their excessive hubris down a couple notches.

Apple REALLY needs a failure to put them back in their place, IMO. They've forgotten who they are, and what they are supposed to be doing/building/developing.

I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be making money. That's the goal of every company. They're doing all right at it, but I'm sure they'll lose sleep knowing a few tech nerds wish they were still making Lisas.
 
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