Apple teams up with Adobe for iPhone Flash

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by dmb8021, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. dmb8021 macrumors member

    Jan 27, 2008

  2. deadsouls macrumors regular

    Dec 4, 2008
    theres been tons of "apple and adobe are 'finally' working together for flash blah blah blah" stories for the past while and still nothing solid has come to fruition. so meh.
  3. sushi Moderator emeritus


    Jul 19, 2002
  4. map1978 macrumors 68020


    Feb 9, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    I don't see what's the big deal of having Flash Lite. Works fine on my Nokia devices. Stevie needs to put down his pipe and just let it happen.
  5. leandromp macrumors regular

    Sep 20, 2008
  6. ChrisN macrumors 65816


    Aug 27, 2007
    Demarest, NJ
    I really hope its true this time as well :)

  7. chrmjenkins macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2007
  8. ReidWings macrumors newbie

    Jun 23, 2008
    It's all about clippy my friend. ;)
  9. hobbbz macrumors 6502a


    Mar 8, 2005
    All this has been said before but what is new is the statement that "Steve Jobs asked us for a 3rd version of Flash"

    Adobe already announced at MAX that they were bring the full flash player to other devices. Hopefully they're really doing it soon.
  10. beg_ne macrumors 6502

    Jul 3, 2003
    Why? What's so great about Flash, and especially Flash Lite?

    What we have with the iPhone SDK is miles beyond what Flash is capable of, and it can do it without bringing a system down to its knees.

    The only "advantage" is all of the Flash hacks could just their existing skills without having to learn anything new to make iPhone "apps".
  11. dazed macrumors 6502a

    Jun 23, 2007
    Yah!! One of the reasons for me not buying the iphone in its current state could soon be removed :)

    The next hurdle is allowing more than one app to run at once and to have apps run in the background (after all this isnt the 1980's :) ).
  12. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    There goes the neighborhood.. i mean battery...

    as long as there is a pref to turn that cow dung off....

  13. addicted44 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 6, 2005
    Ummm... There is more to Flash than just crappy web games, and crappy Flash based sites...

    Its the format on which most online video is delivered (although, by not having Flash on the iphone, Apple has been quickly changing that). This will mean that sites like (which allows you to watch movies and TVshows for free legally) will now be accessible from the iphone. It will mean that all Youtube videos will now be accessible to the iphone.

    I am not fond of Flash, but its a distinct disadvantage for the iphone since it does not have it.
  14. hobbbz macrumors 6502a


    Mar 8, 2005
    No one is talking about replacing the SDK with Flash, they're talking about being able to see flash players in the browser.

    Also check this:

    ClickToFlash was/is a plugin for WebKit that disabled all flash until you click on the area it's supposed to be in to selectively enable that flash piece.

    The project was open source but the author disappeared and the someone else runs it now.

    What if Adobe or Apple bought that guy out and use this technology to make a compromise on flash in Safari. This could be why he stopped working on the public project.
  15. addicted44 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 6, 2005
    How many PHONES are running multiple applications at once? Thats right! those phones running on the FAILED Windows Mobile platform.

    Multiple applications at the current stage of battery power, and processor power consumption is a nightmare. Wait a year or so and it will happen. Right now is not the time.

    Although, Apple REALLY NEEDS to get the freaking Push updates delivered already... Its over 5 months late.
  16. plumbingandtech macrumors 68000

    Jun 20, 2007
    You don't know the difference between the Flash Lite and Regular Power hungry CPU eating, newbie flash dweeb writing cruddy "scripts" that hog up a 2.6gigz desktop proc Flash do you?

    I'll let others explain it to you because it is a BIG DEAL.
  17. rlmccormick macrumors regular

    Jun 7, 2008
    Battery drain...

    In other news, the iPhone's battery life is now reported to be 30 minutes! Should be interesting.
  18. MarkMS macrumors 6502a

    Aug 30, 2006
    Finally! Can't wait, but I've gotten used to not having Flash. Just hope battery life isn't dramatically lowered.
  19. fleshman03 macrumors 68000


    May 27, 2008
    Sioux City, IA
    When?!?!?!? I want it. I need it. Give it to me!

    Seriously, the battery better last more than 2 hours. I want to be able to watch hulu movies.

    I call this will be tied to some type of hardware enhancement for this June's iPhone.
  20. TheSpaz macrumors 604


    Jun 20, 2005
    Please keep flash off my iPhone... Please. I hate it on the desktop too.
  21. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    I have a hard time believing this.

    1) Allowing flash will allow developers to circumvent the apps store and offer many iPhone-targeted flash programs online. Losing App-store revenue (and making the App store less important) are not things Apple wants.

    2) When Apple updates the iPhone hardware, app-store programs will continue to work, so people go out and buy the new phone. But if flash-programs become popular, it's probable that many flash programs won't work perfectly on new hardware without a re-write. You know how a new Mac OS comes out and many people won't update until the new Phtoshop/Word/whatever comes out? That doesn't happen with the iPhone right now. If flash-programs become popular, watch and see that "I'll buy it later" philosophy come to new iPhone launches.

    Obviously, there are advantages, but I think these 2 facts are HUGE drawbacks for Apple which is why they've resisted flash thus far.

    So, what's changed now? Why would they suddenly work with Adobe on this? Are they losing sales of phones? Dunno...that's the only reason I can think of, but I have no idea if it's true or not.
  22. Schtumple macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2007
    To all the people complainging of battery life

    I suspect this will drain the battery the same as (or only marginally more so) than if you were to run a youtube video, or native application/game.

    EDIT: small white car, I think Flash is being embedded so that people can watch flash content, rather than create flash apps, I think these "flash apps" are going to be like the web 2.0 apps apple first touted about, they're not natively installed, a pain to make and severely limited (performance wise) compared to being able to run native, does anyone still actually use any of those anymore!?
  23. Tres macrumors regular

    Oct 8, 2007
    But people can make web apps for the iPhone already?
  24. AidenShaw macrumors P6


    Feb 8, 2003
    The Peninsula
    Let me disable Flash - not uninstall, just disable.

    Give me a simple browser indicator that a site that I'm at is trying to run Flash but can't because I've disabled it.

    Let me click on the indicator, and get a dialogue that lets me enable Flash for that site for this session - if for some reason I'm interested.

    IE8 gives me 1 and 2, but for 3 no joy. Enabling Flash enables it for all sites for all time (until I go in and globally disable it again).

    If Flash did not exist, I would not miss it. If I could vote to eliminate it from the web, I would say "get rid of it".

    I don't want to run a proprietary adware-delivery system on my computer.

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