You are correct; however, I recently got into a heated exchange with a Apple Rep via email about this. She said that Apple never did this. You see, the external hard drive that had all of my downloaded purchases failed. When I went back to re-download them, some of the movies weren't in 1080. The email exchange ended with me having to tell the Rep that not only was this true, but I was also working for Apple at the time and I remember telling customers about it. Now it seems that if you don't keep a copy of those movies you upgraded for free, you will have to purchase them again after a period of time. I guess that there is a time restriction.
I contacted some old co-workers. They all remembered because it was a big deal. We had a training for it. I remember being happy because I didn't have to be on the floor that day and I would be able to upgrade all of my movies when I got home.
I am so tired of the new Apple Reps who repley to you as if you don't know anything, especially to former employees. Some of the people they have working in their call centers are reading from a script, are impatient, don't read your emails throughly and know nothing. I got so mad, because it became a back and forth exchange that wasn't necessary. I wasn't going to let the Rep have the last the word. She was acting as though I had asked her for a credit, which I didn't. I ended the exchange with,"When you no longer work for Apple, you will then understand how this feels. Don't send me anymore emails!"
Sorry about this being so long. I saw your reply and I was like, "this person remembers! This is why I love Mac Rumors!" I don't post much, because when I was in "the cult" we knew that Apple kept an eye one everything we posted online. Yes, we were told not to post anything on this site. I've seen some current employees on here. I wish them all the best. Maybe it's different now under Tim Cook. Nevertheless, it makes me laugh becuase, it's taken me years to get a lot of that programing out of my system.
I have also done this, but with my ATV3.I have taken my AppleTV 4 on trips to hotels. It can be used with the hotel tv, but I first need to call their ISP to have the MAC address of the AppleTV registered. This is required because the logon to the hotel wifi requires a page to load and me to click on the right choices. Since AppleTV has no browser, I can't do this. OTOH, the ISP will give you a high speed connection at no cost. Currently 15Mbps up and down. Apple needs to include the ability to connect to hotel wifi systems, without calling the ISP. Hilton Hotels do not have the capability to change inputs, so you have to ask for a standard remote to perform this function.
Is there not BBC iPlayer, Channel 4 and NowTV on the Apple TV? Aside from ITV and Channel 5, that's about as complete as you'll ever get.I'm more irritated that most UK tv companies still haven't released tvOS apps.
That is interesting, because Amazon Prime is 4K.
Is there not BBC iPlayer, Channel 4 and NowTV on the Apple TV? Aside from ITV and Channel 5, that's about as complete as you'll ever get.
But there's not enough content.🙄


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After failing big w guitar hero and Disney infinity you can prob not expect them to care much about games on it anytime soon.Hopefully they'll include something like an A10X or even just an A10 to make it more capable and competitive with gaming. They're likely to also increase storage after they increased the app size limit.
I don't expect them to change their mind on a bundled controller because of their margins.
True, there's not a lot, (but more than you're thinking). But the moment Apple started shipping phones that shoot 4K, it seems mad that the TV did not move in sync.And there's just about as much content today as there was in 2014. Cable still not pushing all their channels through at 1080p let alone 4K![]()
No, I think they will continue to care for games on the Apple TV. In June last year they removed the requirements for games to support the remote, then in October they showed continued interest by announcing Minecraft for Apple TV, and in January they increased the maximum app size by 20 times to 4GB. I also noticed that they made the controllers more prominent in Apple Stores last year. I think the Apple TV as a games console is attractive as a low cost option, in a similar position as the iPod touch used to be (and maybe still is) as a handheld gaming device.After failing big w guitar hero and Disney infinity you can prob not expect them to care much about games on it anytime soon.
Only it costs as much as the competing but much more potent dedicated gaming consoles...No, I think they will continue to care for games on the Apple TV. In June last year they removed the requirements for games to support the remote, then in October they showed continued interest by announcing Minecraft for Apple TV, and in January they increased the maximum app size by 20 times to 4GB. I also noticed that they made the controllers more prominent in Apple Stores last year. I think the Apple TV as a games console is attractive as a low cost option, in a similar position as the iPod touch used to be (and maybe still is) as a handheld gaming device.
2gb ram and A8 processor is already enough to run virtually every game in the app store, even AAA titles like implosion. The problem isn't the specs, it's getting developers enthusiastic about releasing games for the Apple TV.Hopefully they'll include something like an A10X or even just an A10 to make it more capable and competitive with gaming. They're likely to also increase storage after they increased the app size limit.
I don't expect them to change their mind on a bundled controller because of their margins.
No it doesn't.Only it costs as much as the competing but much more potent dedicated gaming consoles...
Yes it's enough right now but that doesn't mean it should stay like that. Also it needs the extra performance for 4K. And that's what I was saying before, something like Apple releasing a 1st party controller may be pointless but could show potential developers that Apple have a strong interest in TV gaming.2gb ram and A8 processor is already enough to run virtually every game in the app store, even AAA titles like implosion. The problem isn't the specs, it's getting developers enthusiastic about releasing games for the Apple TV.
I can see a few problems.
1) Apple TV games favour those with game controllers, but it can be inconvenient buying one if it doesn't come bundled with the console. I want Doom and Implosion and King of Fighters on my Apple TV, not Crossy Road and Alto's Adventure.
2) Charging - should it come free if I already have the equivalent game on iOS, or should I be expected to pay again? There is no incentive for the former, and double-dipping can turn off potential customers.
3) Current iOS business model heavily favours IAPs, which is a real turn-off for console gaming. I tried Dungeon Hunter 5 for a while, and the grinding became tiresome after a short while. Would people be willing to pay say $20-30 for a quality Diablo clone without IAPs?
I think Apple really needs to rethink its living room strategy.
Apple also reportedly passed on including a more expensive 4K-capable chip in the fourth-gen Apple TV because it would be forced to accept lower margins.
I actually like the remote. The way we get films now seems to be iTunes. Plus we get our content from Netflix and NowTV.
We could have got a cheaper device but would have missed iTunes and Apple Music, and the third party games.
For $800? I literally picked up UN55KU6300F from Dell for around $190 combining Amex offers, cash back and gift cards back in November.Not even. You can pick up a 4K tv for $800. An Xbox One S is even a 4k player.
My tv even does 4k netflix, by itself. Apple is LATE to the 4k game, not early
No it doesn't.
The timing makes sense, though. I assume this won't come out until later this year, and 4K TVs are becoming cheaper and more common. Additionally, 4k content is starting to ramp up a bit, with Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Youtube leading the charge.
I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say, if you read my post I said it was comparable to an iPod touch in the gaming space. I am not talking about people who would get a PS4 or Xbox One - Nobody wanting them would consider an Apple TV as a replacement. I am talking about parents who want to get this as a safe alternative for their young children.Yes it does. 64GB version of ATV4 costs 199$, the Steelseries Nimbus costs 49.95, a total of 248.95$ without tax and not a single game included yet.
Both the PS4 and Xbox One cost 249$ in their 500GB variants including a bundled AAA title. And that's at Newegg, you can arguably get them cheaper still.
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I love the Naive people that go on about the Smart Tv apps. There is a reason why the set top boxes are popular even though most TVs have Apps