If you want to see London don’t let that stop you. Don’t even take your phone. Just take a burner and a real camera. You’ll have more fun that way.
Ironic that people used to take real phones and disposable cameras.
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Apple Threatens to Pull FaceTime and iMessage in the UK Over Proposed Surveillance Law Changes
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If you want to see London don’t let that stop you. Don’t even take your phone. Just take a burner and a real camera. You’ll have more fun that way.
Ironic that people used to take real phones and disposable cameras.
This is the trick of end to end encryption for FaceTime and iMessage. The keys don't live on the server. Unless China has access to a phone directly having Apple's keys doesn't really matter. All they'll get by having Apple's keys is the metadata around chats.
From this page: https://support.apple.com/guide/security/how-imessage-sends-and-receives-messages-sec70e68c949/
This is the server I believe they made them move to China to be under full Chinese jurisdiction. They can simply add their own key either to a targeted user or possibly to all devices. This is what I meant by direct key distribution. If you receive a private key in person directly from the device you’re talking to, you can be more sure only the two of you have the keys. That’s why Apple is introducing iMessage key verification, to be certain the key you have for the person you’re talking to is actually the key they are using. Doesn’t solve the distribution problem. The only way group iMessage can work is for Apple to handle the key distribution for chat members. That loophole allows them to silently add another “member” to the “group” chat.
As if you provided accurate data. Don’t you know that outside US (and Japan) Android devices dominate and, as a result, iMessage and FaceTime are not a viable option.
If you do not want to visit the countries where Android devices dominate, your options are very limited: USA and Japan. But I think you need to visit a shrink first.
The way around that would be say in China they require everything to route threw a middle layer and do basically man in the middle attack. In the end to end China could say require the middle man to take the keys and decrypt them. The end to end would be to the server.
This in on a basic level but it would be china banning the use of End to end and require middle layer to be end points. There are some ways to prevent man in the middle but requires both parties knowing things about the other end and behaving to match.
The point of E2E encryption is to make it so M2M isn't possible. There are no keys for the message content stored on Apple's servers, therefore you can't have a man in the middle. This is why Signal and iMessage are more secure than, say, Telegram. A Telegram message is decrypted on the server (at least temporarily) before being sent to the person receiving the message, this is not the case with an E2E encrypted message. The metadata (who is sending and receiving and when, how big the messages is, etc.) is all available but the message content is not. Only the receiver has that ability.
That loophole isn't there for two reasons. First, each message is signed on the users device (second paragraph) so you know it was sent from the users device. This creates ID for the user to the receiver(s) devices. Apple does control IDs for devices which I'll get to in a moment. You can't spoof a user sending a message because of this.
Second, each message is encrypted using keys for each receiving device. This means it can only land on users' devices who are meant to receive the message including in group chats (the keys used to encrypt the messages can be for one or multiple users' devices.) This is described in paragraph 3. The diagram also shows how they are transmitted and do not hit Apple's servers.
The one potential "loophole" would be if an additional device were added to one of the group chat member's accounts. Apple does control the ID servers. In theory when a new device is added to your account you'll get a notification on all your attached devices (we've all activated a new device to iCloud. That message.) Could Apple suppress that message in China, yes they could.
As this is written there's no way to get added to a chat silently to spy. I'll be happy to point out, though, that Apple's software isn't open so we can't verify for sure they haven't hacked things up differently in China. So truly anything could be possible since their servers exist in China for China.
Eh? iMessage is popular, but WhatsApp must get orders of magnitude more traffic. Teenagers to pensioners use WhatsApp as their primary messaging service. Nothing comes close. My mother is literally the only human being I know that doesn't use WhatsApp. 😂😂
While I agree that WhatsApp is used significantly more often for group chats, I would not agree with your always. I do have quite a few iMessage group chats as well. I'm in the Netherlands, where just like in many other European countries, WhatsApp is used significantly more than any other chat service.
I've also never been invited to an iMessage group chat, and neither has my partner, and probably 95% of our friends and colleagues have iPhones...
Does it matter if the platform only works between Apple devices, if it worked across Windows/Mac OSX, iphone and say samsungs, then maybe, after all as it is apple to apple, a lot of folks use whatsapp as it does bridge the apple only system..
That is not the point: the vote you are given is very precious. Using it wisely entails that you’d do good to inform yourself diligently before using it.
If you don’t, that is also your right but then don’t go and complain afterwards that things did not pan out.
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Sadly, I think you may really believe what you wrote.
The "guilty parties" are guilty because the UK government wants to eavesdrop on their communication? No trial"? No hearing? No evidence? No attorney representation?
With all due respect, I find your view and acquiescence to be scarier and potentially more dangerous than that of the UK government.
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Plenty people here defend the tories. It’s a reasonable assumption that those who defend them support them.
Ah, the famous "blue" passports that the idiots of our country cherish... the solitary "success story" of Brexit for some. Ironic how they chose such a dark blue that 90% of people see as pure black, that scientists confirm would better be identified as being black than blue 😅Blue passports but no blue bubbles. This is how far we've sunk
World governments should just learn how to hack phones and services, like any spy agency would. Sure on paper the encryption makes them unhackable, but just making laws banning the encryption is cheating. I bet Mossad is investing a fortune trying to break the encryption on iPhones and Android alike, like any spy agency worth their salt would.
Don't know what you are talking about. I've got an EU passport, are not British and live in the UK. I don't share that warped view you have at all. LOL Just walk around in London, you'll hear more European language than English. I'm not sure what happened to you and where you think the grass is greener, I've got enough experience in live that the grass is never greener on the the other side, it is what you make it to be and is a reflection of oneself.
What many don’t realise, is that China is the blueprint of where their own society is heading, not just the UK, it’s all planned at a certain meeting held every year in a certain place at the beginning of the year.
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