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Do we know if a hub will work?

it hasn't been confirmed, however docking stations have been said to work and the new sony laptop features one, although sony is using a proprietary version of TB that just uses the usb connector and only connects to their docking station, not other TB accessories.
 
it hasn't been confirmed, however docking stations have been said to work and the new sony laptop features one, although sony is using a proprietary version of TB that just uses the usb connector and only connects to their docking station, not other TB accessories.

Yes, Intel's website indicates that hubs are possible.

Interesting, I must have missed that part. Although I guess I question the use of a hub when you can only have 6 devices connected per controller anyways(or is it per port?).
 
Like Aidenshaw said, distance.

Optical - 100m
Copper - 3m to 7m (most stories say 3m, some say "5m to 7m")

Also, note that there is no optical port defined by Intel, so every connector is going to be a copper MDP style connector.

When optical ports are defined, it may be possible to have a cable that's optical on one end and copper on the other - or it may be that optical Thunderbolt changes the "wire" protocols such that a cable like that would not work.

Until then, the TBolt optical cables are extension cords for copper TBolt.
 
This is possibly an ignorant question, but would I be able to reformat this into exFAT?
 
This is possibly an ignorant question, but would I be able to reformat this into exFAT?

You could from Windows at least - it's just a disk volume (since I assume that the question is really about sharing the disk with Windows).

It shouldn't look different from any other disk volume from the point of view of the disk utilities.
 
You could from Windows at least - it's just a disk volume. If shouldn't look different from any other disk volume from the point of view of the disk utilities.

Why would they need to through Windows? exFAT is supported in OS X and disk utility can format to exFAT.
 
Why would they need to through Windows? exFAT is supported in OS X and disk utility can format to exFAT.

We seem to agree - it's just a disk and disk utilities should see it as any other disk.

While you were typing, I already edited my first sentence to You could from Windows at least - it's just a disk volume (since I assume that the question is really about sharing the disk with Windows).

If you're dual-booting, does it matter which OS you use to format the disk?
 
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/06/why-apples-2m-thunderbolt-cable-costs-a-whopping-50.ars

Perhaps the vilification of the cable price was misplaced since that looks pretty complicated. It's not just copper and plastic like an HDMI cable.
 
So, if Thunderbolt contains two 10Gbit/s channels, but one device can only apparently use one, what's to stop a manufacturer putting two pairs of 5Gbit/s SSDs in one box, in such a way that they appear to be two TB devices already in RAID 0, for a 20Gbit/s external drive?

I personally see no reason why the "one device, one channel" rule should be anything more than an artificial software limit, or even just an initial guideline for manufacturers of TB devices.
 
Like Aidenshaw said, distance.
This must be an impressive optical system. The last one given to consumers couldn't handle much compared to copper.
I did read it. It says you posted just to say you don't like other people posting their opinions and felt the need to put them down for expressing themselves while you prefer to keep quiet about high cable prices.
I'm not going to buy it, you're not going to buy it, so why talk about it? But one of us does nothing but complain about a computer company. I could do that too, I actually hate several of them, whereas I think you just like mouthing off about Apple. But why bother unendingly? Worthless.
 
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/06/why-apples-2m-thunderbolt-cable-costs-a-whopping-50.ars

Perhaps the vilification of the cable price was misplaced since that looks pretty complicated. It's not just copper and plastic like an HDMI cable.

The cost may be justified relative to an HDMI or DVI cable but if they can't find a way to drive costs down TB may be no more successful against USB than FireWire was. The justification for copper as opposed to optical for the first implementation of TB was to bring cost down to a marketable level. With copper TB going for just under $50 I'd hate to hear what an optical TB cable would go for.
 
Perhaps the vilification of the cable price was misplaced since that looks pretty complicated. It's not just copper and plastic like an HDMI cable.

If Thunderbolt requires such an expensive cable, it's a dead technology. The price of peripherals and cables better come down quick.
 
If Thunderbolt requires such an expensive cable, it's a dead technology. The price of peripherals and cables better come down quick.

Its a niche market now but once everyone who wants one has one, they will be competing with $99 3TB USB3 drives. I bet the price comes down quickly for the cables. A third party one will run you 15-18 bucks in a month or so.
 
What a gyp, $50 for a cable....

Isn't the connector royalty free?

do you retract your statement now that you see what is inside of the cable? So many in this thread must eat their words. haha, thunderbolt is the best thing apple came up with since firewire 800 which makes my drives backup 2x faster than usb. like 4 hrs not 8 hrs for a 1.5 TB. and that's splitting the firewire 800 in half...
 
Why would they need to through Windows? exFAT is supported in OS X and disk utility can format to exFAT.

We seem to agree - it's just a disk and disk utilities should see it as any other disk.

While you were typing, I already edited my first sentence to You could from Windows at least - it's just a disk volume (since I assume that the question is really about sharing the disk with Windows).

If you're dual-booting, does it matter which OS you use to format the disk?

Thanks both. I was just wandering if there were any complications in terms of what file system the hardware RAID can support in this enclosure.

Your assumption was correct. I need to share large files between osx and bootcamp.
 
do you retract your statement now that you see what is inside of the cable?

So what? Have you seen what's inside a $5 wrist watch? Just because there's a chip there, that doesn't mean it cost a fortune to manufacture. Do you even know what that chip is or what it does that you conclude that justifies a $50 price tag? What about Apple's overpriced HDMI cables? What justifies them? Or their dongles to make Mini-Display Port work with normal monitors? Sorry, but you've proved nothing.

So many in this thread must eat their words.

Based on what, pray tell? :rolleyes:

haha, thunderbolt is the best thing apple came up with since firewire 800 which makes my drives backup 2x faster than usb. like 4 hrs not 8 hrs for a 1.5 TB. and that's splitting the firewire 800 in half...

Yeah, did you try eSata instead of FW800? It's faster. Oh wait. Apple doesn't use eSata so it must suck.
 
Yeah said:
yes, I have used esata over express card, I think it does suck. Poorly designed interface-short cables, no daisy chain, crazy inflexible cables you can't even twist, all that for getting just a little more speed. I'm not using ssd or raid so the drives get maybe 95 MB/sec to start, but by the end they're down to 55MB, and firewire 800-800 transfer goes at 40MB/s, so I just have my hard drives daisy chained far away going slower for all but the most serious backup. 1.5 tb 8 hrs usb, 4 hrs firewire 800, 3 hrs esata. not worth it most of the time. plus, that badass of a cable and it can't power a 10W drive? lame.

now with thunderbolt i can have all my drives daisy chained to my monitor and just plug my laptop in to the power/usb/thunderbolt cable on the display and I have a pretty serious machine.

as for "eating their words" that was more for the ones that declared there was nothing special about it, just a piece of copper with a connector on the end, and were therefore wrong.
 
Such a shame, how this is looking. Thunderbolt, to me, feels like too much cost for the majority of users for overkill performance. I'd like a faster connection than USB but also a connection just as popular as USB (so bye bye firewire) and again Thunderbolt doesn't look like it'll meet either requirement. For the majority of users today I think this tech is far too much, they've just overshot it.
 
Such a shame, how this is looking. Thunderbolt, to me, feels like too much cost for the majority of users for overkill performance. I'd like a faster connection than USB but also a connection just as popular as USB (so bye bye firewire) and again Thunderbolt doesn't look like it'll meet either requirement. For the majority of users today I think this tech is far too much, they've just overshot it.
I have little doubt USB 3 will come to the Mac next year. Then you'll have your faster popular connection. Meanwhile Thunderbolt will be uberfast.
 
"but can't you connect 2 macbooks with the TB cable to transfer files? i mean with normal mode, not target disk mode!"

So it is possible to connect 2 macbooks to the Pegasus? We bought it with the aim of connecting 2 computers to the raid drive so we can store and transfer media items to one another. It only appears on the one computer at a time.

Can someone advise the setup details to allow us to both connect to it at the same time?
 
"but can't you connect 2 macbooks with the TB cable to transfer files? i mean with normal mode, not target disk mode!"

So it is possible to connect 2 macbooks to the Pegasus? We bought it with the aim of connecting 2 computers to the raid drive so we can store and transfer media items to one another. It only appears on the one computer at a time.

Can someone advise the setup details to allow us to both connect to it at the same time?

Why are you resurrecting a thread from almost a year ago?
 
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