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You need to listen a little closer. They made a point of saying that you could connect any "3RD PARTY DISPLAY" that you want to connect. To me they are admitting that their 27" display is not meant for the Ma Pro User. That has been my opinion when they went to a glossy only 16:9 display over the previous 30" 16:10 display. Dell has a good deal on a couple of them.

Phil Schiller said the new mac pro would support 4K diplays but he never used the words "3rd party".
 
Bring also a new wired numerical keyboard with built-in USB 3 as well as a 22 to 24-inch Thunderbolt display with Thunderbolt 2 and USB 3.
 
I guess for the handful of people who care (and do not know any better) Apple has not made a decent monitor in years - just let it die.

They admitted that they do not make a pro display any more when we were told to connect a third party display to the new Mac Pro. They seem to totally agree with you as I do.
 
Phil Schiller said the new mac pro would support 4K diplays but he never used the words "3rd party".

I remember someone saying that we could connect any 3rd party 4k display. But my ears are 67 years old & tend to hear things differently than some.
 
Not at a decent refresh rate, no. Only with Thunderbolt 2 (not released yet) we'll be able to achieve real 4K at 60Hz.

Perhaps Thunderbolt 2 is the reason why the rMBPs haven't been refreshed yet.

I'm hoping for a 2880p Retina Thunderbolt display though, even if it's not released this year. 4K at 27" would imply a reduction in real estate once you turn HiDPI on. It'd be perfect for a 21.5" Retina iMac though.

My guess is that the new Thunderbolt displays will be 5120x2880 as per the OS X Mavericks wallpaper size. They will probably run at 2160 x 1440 under thunderbolt 1 to solve compatability issues just like how Apple has always solved compatability issues.
 
Damn a 30" ACD 4k would be lovely. Matte screen! :D

Yes please!
I'd be very surprised as no one seems to be making 30" panels these days ( are Dell still selling them?), but very happy if Apple released a replacement for my current ACD30
 
It is strange how the Apple Thunderbolt Display is thicker than an iMac, even though it only contains a screen. It also almost costs as much. Is the image quality at least better than that of the iMac? Plus if you buy it, you'd think you'll have a screen for many years (the main reason to buy a Mac Mini or Mac Pro is so you can upgrade it part by part, rather than the whole machine at once) yet you'll be limited by USB 2, Thunderbolt 1 and MagSafe 1 if you bought the current version.

I mean it's great that a screen has these hubs built in, but then it becomes just as prone to obsolescence as a computer. Wouldn't it be great if all you had to upgrade was a little chip inside that carried the controllers and the cables? Why replace the whole screen, unless they really do make a Retina screen, of course, but that won't necessarily happen.

999 vs 1799, that's quite the round-up there


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Yuck, I'd hope it would have a little bit of a curve in the back, that looks bad.
 
Not long ago I got a 24" Full HD BenQ and it worked great on my G5, before I got my new 27" iMac. The BenQ is now hard at work on a PC.

Love the Apple displays but unless I was buying a new Mac Pro I would not be getting one. I really wish they would release a low cost one for Mac Mini users as right now it costs all most as much to buy the Mini and Apple Display as it does to get a 27" iMac, wish has better performance.

Maybe they should make a non 4k/Retina 24" LED for around $500?
 
After 5 years they finally release a new Mac Pro, now they EOL the displays. Even Apple isn't that barking, there must be something imminent.
 
A retina or 4K display will be expensive. But can you imagine how amazing it will look? It will go great with the new rMPB's Thunderbolt 2 ports :D
 
How much are you willing to pay for a 4K display.
With pixel density twice as high and a higher potential defect count, you don't think it will be the same price do you??

You can figure with twice the density at the same size panel you will be paying at least 50% more.

Look at the price difference between 1920x1080 vs 2560x1440.
You ready to pay more than $1500 for a display?
I'm not. I bought a dell display for my MacPro instead of the Apple display becauseI could get the Dell for $600 with a 3 year warranty on *ANY* dead pixel.

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Yes please!
I'd be very surprised as no one seems to be making 30" panels these days ( are Dell still selling them?), but very happy if Apple released a replacement for my current ACD30

Dell still sells the U3014 for $1499, but on sale right now.
The resolution is 2560x1600.
I bought a 27" that is 2560x1440. I couldn't justify almost 2x for another 160 pixels on the bottom.

They also have a 29" that is 2560x1080. Not tall enough but it is cheaper.

Anything in a higher resolution than 2560x1440 in a 27" is going to be expensive.
 
Retina is not defined strictly by a PPI. Don't fall into that trap. I expect both the 21.5" and 27" models to both be 4K, because no GPU has ever been tested to run a single display at higher resolution. There's certainly no single cable standard for it, which immediately rules out a 5120x2880 external display (and likely even an internal one, its just too many pixels).
I realize that 27-inch is typically viewed at longer viewing distance than 13-inch or 15-inch retina MacBook Pro (227 and 237 PPI, respectively). But as a user of both 15-inch MBP and 27-inch Thunderbolt Display, I personally don't sit that much further away when using 27-inch. So I don't think 163 PPI (27-inch at 3840x2160) can be qualified as retina.

Furthermore, at default "best for display" 2x scaling, 3840x2160 corresponds to mere 1920x1080 resolution.

To your credit, not everything has be labeled retina (at least, Apple can just slap retina and probably get away with it) and I suspect many power users will opt for "more space" 1.5x scaling, which happens to be identical to current 27-inch Thunderbolt Display's resolution of 2560x1440.

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How much are you willing to pay for a 4K display.
With pixel density twice as high and a higher potential defect count, you don't think it will be the same price do you??

27-inch 4K would almost definitely cost more than current $999. But some folks value the importance of monitor and I suspect many would easily justify double the price ($1999).
 
Yes please!
I'd be very surprised as no one seems to be making 30" panels these days ( are Dell still selling them?), but very happy if Apple released a replacement for my current ACD30

Yeah, I love my ACD. I wished I purchased two of them. I was bummed out when they discontinued. It's a great size and with a 4k resolution would be just incredibly cool. Expensive probably, but a well worth investment on the long run.
My 30"ACD still running strong after so many years. I hope Apple will come up with one again.
 
What are the capabilities of the current rMBP on the 4k front? I feel like that will determine whether apple is planning on launching a 4k screen (not 5120×2880 yet). If it couldn't handle it, they probably will release 2 models, a 4k one with the new Mac Pro and a standard update for the rMBP.
 
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