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I think it is important. An entire generation (or two, or three) is being raised on devices that just happen to be causing long-term hearing loss.

That's not the problem. The problem is that an entire generation (or two or three) is being raised on the notion that class action lawsuits are a way of getting money from someone else, and that what happens to them is always someone else's fault.
 
Good if this becomes reality. Any sound over long periods of time over 80dB SPL(A) will cause permanent hearing loss. Most kids play their highly compressed songs at full volume and they do not know what damage they are ding to themselves. The iPod headphones can exceed 90dB. iPod's are restricted in the UK, however because the iPod headphones have low impedance it's easy to get high volumes.
 
RIP - Common Sense

Common sense died when the user had to rely on others to protect himself. Is it that tough for the man to realize that it's his own responsibility to take care of himself? Does he need others to help protect him from himself?

I really think somebody needs to resurrect common sense... common sense just ain't common anymore...
 
That's not the problem. The problem is that an entire generation (or two or three) is being raised on the notion that class action lawsuits are a way of getting money from someone else, and that what happens to them is always someone else's fault.

Well, I understand that, and don't necessarily disagree.

My point is that you don't really see or hear (ha) the problem of hearing loss talked about much with regard to iPods, despite it being a problem right now and potentially a huge problem in 20 years for currently young folks to have accelerated hearing loss later in life.

It's all the more important to at least discuss or bring attention to (lawsuit or not) because it's something that's irreversible. It's not like quitting drinking or smoking, or some other harmful activity that isn't completely irreversible. Once you lose some level of hearing, it's gone.
 
Well I certainly hope that they have a way to calculate the actual dB level coming out of the headphones and don't just rely on where you have your volume set.

I can tell you that older songs that aren't mastered that well and audiobooks have to be cranked up way louder compared to newer songs just to be able to hear them at the same volume. If they put a max level it should be related to what is actually being played and adjust accordingly.
 
Well I certainly hope that they have a way to calculate the actual dB level coming out of the headphones and don't just rely on where you have your volume set.
Problem will arise when you use different headphones. The Leq and Lavq will be different because the headphones have different sensitivities. Wonder how apple will think that one out.
 
It's the new automated money maker program generously provided with every new Mac purchased.

They are calling it "iGetMoney".

The program runs constantly in the background and even works while you are sleeping. It scours the Internet looking for anyone that it could possibly file any claim against. It automatically files the claim, handles all the associated legal issues, and then alerts you when it has won and asks you where you want the money deposited.

The only problem, is that the rest of the world uses the program "iGetYouBack".

Apple has so far not developed an antidote to this program. The rest of the industry started using this program after their experience with the litigious Apple of the 1980's.

As Apple has discovered, pursuing everyone with no end, eventually results in everyone else suing you every time you wiggle your little finger.

So, be cautious. Apple's iGetMoney will make you a fortune rather quickly. But, the industry's iGetYouBack will cost you a fortune in the long run.

Perhaps the thing to do is let iGetMoney rake in a fortune, and then send your Mac to the bottom of the ocean in cement shoes (so you cannot be traced). Then, quickly disappear to some non-extradition country for your retirement :D
 
This is a ridiculus idea. What's even more amazing is that there are actually people here who support this. I'm sorry, but it is my own personal decision about what I do with my body and what volume I choose to listen at is nobody's business but my own. (Want me to sign a waiver that I won't sue? Fine, I'll be more than happy to).

Geez, the people who support this are probably the same right wing wackos that want to dictate and force their beliefs on every other aspect of your life. I've got an idea for them; if they don't want to damage their hearing with loud music, than DON'T LISTEN TO IT LOUDLY! But keep the h*ll out of my business and keep your hands off of my ears! (The only good thing about losing hearing from loud music is that later on in life I won't have to listen to controlling nuts like this :)

Also, If Apple implements this I will immediately hack the device to disable it, or if it is not possible, I will IMMEDIATELY dump my iPOD and iPhone for another MP3 device (as will hoards of others). This would be a ridiculusly dumb business move on Apple's part (and that's why I think this is just a rumour).
 
I think some people are overreaaaacting...

There's no certainty as to whether this:

A) Will happen for sure
B) Will be anything other than optional
C) Is a bad idea

Yes, you can do what you want to your hearing, but I suspect many people don't really know what they're doing to it in the first place.
 
This is a ridiculus idea. What's even more amazing is that there are actually people here who support this. I'm sorry, but it is my own personal decision about what I do with my body and what volume I choose to listen at is nobody's business but my own. (Want me to sign a waiver that I won't sue? Fine, I'll be more than happy to).

Geez, the people who support this are probably the same right wing wackos that want to dictate and force their beliefs on every other aspect of your life. I've got an idea for them; if they don't want to damage their hearing with loud music, than DON'T LISTEN TO IT LOUDLY! But keep the h*ll out of my business and keep your hands off of my ears! (The only good thing about losing hearing from loud music is that later on in life I won't have to listen to controlling nuts like this :)

Also, If Apple implements this I will immediately hack the device to disable it, or if it is not possible, I will IMMEDIATELY dump my iPOD and iPhone for another MP3 device (as will hoards of others). This would be a ridiculusly dumb business move on Apple's part (and that's why I think this is just a rumour).



Waaahhhhhhhh... I want my mommy :rolleyes:
 
Ya, if it wasn't able to be turned off this would REALLY PISS ME OFF. Why can't people take responsibility for their own decisions DAMN it. If you want to go deaf, GO DEAF! Why do idiots have to sue someone? :mad:
Its because these days someone else is allways responsible for your actions. LAWYERS.
 
there will always be idiots who sue over the stupidest things, and sometimes they win... *sigh* that's the down side of selling products in America.
 
Its because these days someone else is allways responsible for your actions. LAWYERS.

Yep, if people would quit acting like helpless babies, and accept that they made their choices, then the rest of the world could quit coddling (I mean protecting) you.

As long as people can buy hot coffee, and then sue because it was hot, then you are going to get lawyers and technology controlling how you use stuff.

If everyone would grow up and act like mature adults, this stuff would go away.

I could only imagine if our founding fathers could see the United States as it is now. They'd look at us, and sadly declare us a bunch of whiny babies.

How is it that we've regressed so far from being a country built on strong men? Now we're a bunch of people who whine and cry every time someone says something we don't like. We sue if someone says something with the wrong sentence structure because it offends us. We sue if something we buy causes us injury even if we deliberately used it improperly.

Sorry folks, if you act like a bunch of babies, you'll get a bunch of babysitters to take care of you.
 
Why so many negatives about this patent?

If people object to the idea of an optional volume limit, that's already an iPod feature. I wasn't aware of any outcry asking Apple to take that option away from people.

This sounds like simply a more sophisticated kind of limit. Take it or leave it, but the health risk is real, so what's wrong with giving people more options to control it?

I think people are inventing some imaginary scenario about this article and then getting mad about it, rather than responding to what the patent actually is :eek:
 
I feel like that could get annoying. Sometimes you need to go deaf for a few seconds to hear your music.

They should just package sound isolating headphones with the iPod instead.

Kind of like how Sony was including 55usd sound isolating headphones with some of their flash players? I hear the headphones were suppose to be top notch.
 
Personal Responsibility

What happened to personal responsibility? If it's too loud turn it down. If your hearing is damaged because YOU turned up the volume, tough. I am sick of whiners.
 
What happened to personal responsibility? If it's too loud turn it down. If your hearing is damaged because YOU turned up the volume, tough. I am sick of whiners.

Yet again, too many people don't even know about the risks involved in turning the music up too loud.

It's always about personal responsibility until something happens to you. Then it's someone else's fault.
 
Yet again, too many people don't even know about the risks involved in turning the music up too loud.

It's always about personal responsibility until something happens to you. Then it's someone else's fault.

I think it would be nearly impossible to find anyone who lived in America as a teenager who didn't know high volume could hurt your ears. Actually, let's make that anyone who was ever a teenager with a stereo.

If you can find one teen who's parents haven't told them to turn that thing down because it was too loud and would hurt their ears, I'd be surprised.
 
I think it would be nearly impossible to find anyone who lived in America as a teenager who didn't know high volume could hurt your ears. Actually, let's make that anyone who was ever a teenager with a stereo.

If you can find one teen who's parents haven't told them to turn that thing down because it was too loud and would hurt their ears, I'd be surprised.

Well, great. How many people know how it damages your hearing?

I suspect the number falls off a table by comparison.
 
Also, If Apple implements this I will immediately hack the device to disable it, or if it is not possible, I will IMMEDIATELY dump my iPOD and iPhone for another MP3 device (as will hoards of others). This would be a ridiculusly dumb business move on Apple's part (and that's why I think this is just a rumour).

Except the more likely outcome is that all the other MP3 devices will quickly adopt the same thing, lest they be sued not only for damaging hearing, but for recklessly doing so (which translates into even richer damage settlements) because they didn't implement the same technologies.
 
I don't really mind one way or the other if they add this feature, but how many of you guys would complain about hearing loss and then wish they had this feature? :D

Anyway, the point is that someone should mod Time Machine so it's a Stargate instead of a black hole.

Or maybe even a unicorn!... but that would be wtf.

.... Maybe it could be KITT. Because that car can do anything.

Or a shoe!

No wait! No.... it should be .... the Time Tunnel!
 
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