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As it stands NFC payment is stupid. Anyone could steal your phone and buy stuff with it. A way to secure it is with finger print technology. If your finger print it 'active' the payment will go through.

I can just picture a dodgy looking guy turning up at the checkout with a shopping trolley packed with expensive goods, and trying to pay for it with an iPhone and a loose thumb... :p
 
Okay, so for adults, everything is fine. I have a fingerprint gun safe to lock out my kids (it has a key as well, but that one is in my parents-in-law's safe) and the interesting part I learned on the documentation was is that kids don't have enough markers on their fingers to make finger print scanners work. Now, that would be a bummer for all these kids wanting to have the latest phone. I understand that this technology is different since it reads the layer below your skin, but I could imagine that it faces the same problems.
 
Passwords are the work of the devil. Horrible, the worst part of the computer experience for me. Went to order some iTunes, the first time in awhile. What a terrible experience. Are they afraid terrorists are going to steal country music? WTF, awful experience.

Hopefully, this technology ends this forever and some nervous person at Apple doesn't decide to combine passwords and fingerprints. I swear I will go to Windows if they do away with passwords and Apple doesn't.
 
If they can afford this, why can't they afford to bring back Rosetta?
Naturally, Apple has the cash do to it but they have deliberately chosen not to use their resources for something like that.

Why? Because Rosetta is a bandage for a dying technology being used by a quickly decreasing portion of Apple's customer base.

Since it appears that you never did figure this about Steve Jobs and Apple, I will point it out to you now: Apple is a very forward looking company. They dwell very little on the past and have minimal interest in providing legacy support.

Acquisition of companies like PA Semi, Intrinsity, Siri, C3, Anobit, and AuthenTec are about returning value to a large percentage of Apple's worldwide customer base (international sales now totals up to 62% of their revenue).
 
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As it stands NFC payment is stupid. Anyone could steal your phone and buy stuff with it. A way to secure it is with finger print technology. If your finger print it 'active' the payment will go through.
And I couldn't steal your card and buy stuff with it? ;)
 
And I couldn't steal your card and buy stuff with it? ;)
And there are an avalanche of horror stories emanating from markets (South Korea, Japan, etc.) where contactless payment systems have been used since the middle of the last decade? ;)

As it stands NFC payment is stupid. Anyone could steal your phone and buy stuff with it. A way to secure it is with finger print technology. If your finger print it 'active' the payment will go through.
Seriously, it's pretty embarrassing when a large number of commenters seem to be ignorant of the fact that the world doesn't not end at the USA borders.
 
Apple is NOT replacing credit cards.....EVER.

If i'm at home and I want the lady to run to the store and pick up something, I'll give her my debit card and tell her my passcode so she can purchase it. If all my cards are replaced by my phone, i'm not going to want to hand her my phone to go make a purchase when my phone contains EVERYTHING about me on it.

Maybe you could just get her her own phone. And let her put the shoes back on.
 
my HP has an Authentec fingerprint scanner in it. It's honestly pretty slick. Instead of having my browser or the OS keep all of my login credentials or otherwise "keep me logged in", I just scan my finger and I get logged in. Very quick and much more secure, so in case my laptop is stolen, you'd have to have me physically there to log-in to anything (the stored passwords I believe are encrypted using my fingerprint signature as the key).
 
So Apple will get credit for inventing a fingerprint scanner on a phone? :rolleyes:

Awesome.

Motorola must be thrilled.
 
Passwords are the work of the devil. Horrible, the worst part of the computer experience for me. Went to order some iTunes, the first time in awhile. What a terrible experience. Are they afraid terrorists are going to steal country music? WTF, awful experience.

Hopefully, this technology ends this forever and some nervous person at Apple doesn't decide to combine passwords and fingerprints. I swear I will go to Windows if they do away with passwords and Apple doesn't.

I already have done away with passwords on my HP with a fingerprint scanner (by Authentec). I just swipe my finger to log-in.
 
So Apple will get credit for inventing a fingerprint scanner on a phone? :rolleyes:

Awesome.

Motorola must be thrilled.

And all the apple fans will say how it was Apple that first brought scanners to portable devices as Apple will say, like they did with facetime, how this is really the first time this tech could be incorpated into portable devices to the "wows" of everyone in the room
 
Maybe you could just get her her own phone. And let her put the shoes back on.

so what if i'm on the phone with a person/business and the wife comes over and says "hey, i need to pick up xyz at the store, i need the iphone since it has our payment info on it".

so stupid.

keep the credit cards.
 
Now that's a great idea! Er… the fingerprint capturing I mean. :) Now all you have to do is address privacy concerns, get it government approved, coordinate with police systems and databases… Yep, I can see it coming to the iPhone in 2024.

Unfortunately, you are right. We can't even get people to provide an ID to vote, let alone fingerprint thieves. :D
 
I've always wanted a finger print scanner to unlock my phone. My only question is where are these "20 million mobile phones" that already have this tech?

Custom made for military? I've never seen them.

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Seems like a high price for what doesn't look like a particularly unique technology. Am I missing something?

Most fingerprint scanners in use today on computers are optical scanners. They require a separate sensor. From what I gather here is that this technology uses a capacitive touch screen to gather the input. Since Apple already does capacitive touch on iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, Magic Trackpad and every MacBook this technology is a much better fit for them than what Lenovo has been putting on their laptops since IBM made Thinkpads.
 
Custom made for military? I've never seen them.

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Most fingerprint scanners in use today on computers are optical scanners. They require a separate sensor. From what I gather here is that this technology uses a capacitive touch screen to gather the input. Since Apple already does capacitive touch on iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch, Magic Trackpad and every MacBook this technology is a much better fit for them than what Lenovo has been putting on their laptops since IBM made Thinkpads.

The Motorola atrix has a fingerprint scanner. Been about a year and a half I think
 
Do you guys think this has any chance of making it into the 2012 iPhone? Usually, it takes Apple some time to assimilate their acquisitions into their products (e.g., the maps companies or Siri). Maybe the 2013 iPhone?

Here's hoping that Apple had already partnered with them for the new iPhone and liked them so much that they decided to buy the company.

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The Motorola atrix has a fingerprint scanner. Been about a year and a half I think

Cool. Is it optical or touch based?
 
Here's hoping that Apple had already partnered with them for the new iPhone and liked them so much that they decided to buy the company.

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Cool. Is it optical or touch based?

I believe it's optical with sensor on back of device
 
so what if i'm on the phone with a person/business and the wife comes over and says "hey, i need to pick up xyz at the store, i need the iphone since it has our payment info on it".

so stupid.

keep the credit cards.

First, pay attention to your own name.

Second, "our" payment info would be on her phone, too. Duh. Although, I would heartily recommend both joint and separate accounts. Fighting over money is reduced.
 
First, pay attention to your own name.

Second, "our" payment info would be on her phone, too. Duh. Although, I would heartily recommend both joint and separate accounts. Fighting over money is reduced.

what's my internet forum handle have to do with anything? LOL. OH, you must think you're the first person to ever try and be clever with that...how cute...

what if my wife doesn't want an iphone? what if she wants a flip phone? or a phone that doesn't support payment access? not everyone uses and iphone or latest android....

the phone will never, ever replace the plastic credit card. it may server as a substitute, but not replacement. they will always be around.
 
I suppose I'm an old fogey, but I'll never use my phone for payment. Sounds like giving thieves one more way of stealing to me.
 
As it stands NFC payment is stupid. Anyone could steal your phone and buy stuff with it. A way to secure it is with finger print technology. If your finger print it 'active' the payment will go through.

As it stands Credit Card payment is stupid. Anyone could steal your Card and buy stuff with it.
 
so what if i'm on the phone with a person/business and the wife comes over and says "hey, i need to pick up xyz at the store, i need the iphone since it has our payment info on it".

so stupid.

keep the credit cards.
Well, whoever said the phone would be your only means of payment? Of course, you'd have a backup card too. I can just imagine the alternative... "gee, I'd like to pay for this, but my phone just ran out of power!"

Honestly, I don't see the point of all this. You either slide a card through a slot or you wave you phone over it. Being that you can't have your drivers license, this isn't going to allow you to leave you wallet at home. You'll need it for the DL... so stick your CC in there too.

I like the card better as I prefer to give the teller my card and show her my driver's license so that there's some proof to who I am. I also write, SHOW ID on the back of my card instead of signing my name so the clerk will ask to see my DL. To me, that's secure.

To me, the waving of some device seems insecure and can be taken advantage of. I'll never do it.
 
The Motorola atrix has a fingerprint scanner. Been about a year and a half I think

Here's hoping that Apple had already partnered with them for the new iPhone and liked them so much that they decided to buy the company.

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Cool. Is it optical or touch based?

I believe it's optical with sensor on back of device
I miss my old Atrix.

The scanners on the Atrix are touch based, not optical.
Same with the newer ThinkPads.
They use AuthenTec touch based scanners. (Black membrane)

I haven't seen an optical based FP scanner on a laptop in years.
They're too easy to fool.
 
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