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Jobs brought more manufacturing jobs to the USA.

Job: Zero manufacturing jobs brought to the USA.
Cook: Minus 700 (or so) jobs brought to the USA.

Cook through this collapse cost many manufacturing workers their jobs.

Geez, give it a rest. Apple is one of the largest employers / creators of work in the US. Just think of how many construction workers are building the new Apple Campus 2 through 2016? That's just one example. Apple also has thousands of administrative, support, engineering and other technical employees directly employed. 700 jobs is a toss in the hat when you look at the bigger picture. I'm not saying that 700 job losses should be ignored, and as you've read here, Apple is committed to finding new jobs for those workers. This was not Apple's fault.. this was GTAT's mismanagement and failure to meet their obligations that THEY agreed to. Apple is doing the right thing, GTAT did not.
 
I see the pics of these boules in all these articles, but I don't see anything else to give me a reference to how big they are. The article mentioned "hundreds of kilograms", so exactly how large are these hunks of sapphire?



For once I actually want a banana for scale...


Look up the density of Sapphire, that should allow you to calculate how big a boule would be for any requested number of kilograms.
 
lol @ dissolving the partnership.

Apple better find others soon,, we want our Sapphire displays .
 
And this has what to do with any topic ever discussed on these forums? What concern of yours is his weight?
A healthy body is a healthy mind. And we all want Ive as healthy as possible so he can keep designing great products.

We should care for his health as it possibly could interfere with his job. And to be honest I don't like the fact Ive is not caring about himself as much as he should be.
 
A healthy body is a healthy mind. And we all want Ive as healthy as possible so he can keep designing great products.



We should care for his health as it possibly could interfere with his job. And to be honest I don't like the fact Ive is not caring about himself as much as he should be.


So, everyone should live according to your ideas of what is appropriate? Sorry I missed your coronation ceremony, it must have been very moving.
 
I see the pics of these boules in all these articles, but I don't see anything else to give me a reference to how big they are. The article mentioned "hundreds of kilograms", so exactly how large are these hunks of sapphire?

For once I actually want a banana for scale...
I'm going to need a bigger microwave.
 
It is a joke to people thinking US can make the iPhone or some other large volume product.

Isn't Samsung making massive volumes of chips for Apple at a fab line in Texas, employing several hundred people at that plant? Last I heard, the state of Texas hadn't seceded from the Union (yet?).
 
Isn't Samsung making massive volumes of chips for Apple at a fab line in Texas, employing several hundred people at that plant? Last I heard, the state of Texas hadn't seceded from the Union (yet?).

Sorry I should of been specific. Total manufacturing kinda like the 800,000 Foxconn workers has to build iPhones.
 
Amen to that. Many people in the US are too lazy or entitled to do that kind of work. Don't get me wrong, we have good hard working people who currently do it, and do a good job (most of the time), but too many people feel entitled to a job making 60-70k right out of college or tech school. That's partly due to Gen X parents helicoptering their kids, but that's a different discussion.

Nailed it!:cool:
 
I'm going to need a bigger microwave.

Go big or go home

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So, everyone should live according to your ideas of what is appropriate? Sorry I missed your coronation ceremony, it must have been very moving.

We all know what is healthy and what is unhealthy. That's all this is about. Ive can keep neglecting his body if he wants to. His life. I (and I assume others too) would be happier if he actually cared about himself more. We know he puts his job above looking after his body, and it really shows.

Also you can stop being an ******* about the issue. I wish Ive cared about his overweightness and did something about it, that's all. Wishing someone was healthier than they are now, is that a crime in your eyes?
 
cool, bought 50,000 shares at 0.4ish

Good move but don't expect to sell that for at least a year. If GT can leverage their butt hurt from the Apple deal into something good, they have a winner. My take is the assets will be sold to a larger materials house like 3M or Corning and rolled into their portfolio.

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A healthy body is a healthy mind. And we all want Ive as healthy as possible so he can keep designing great products.

We should care for his health as it possibly could interfere with his job. And to be honest I don't like the fact Ive is not caring about himself as much as he should be.

Weight gain could be anything from change in relationship, side effect to medication or anything else.

I've known a lot of entrepreneurs who, after loosing a business, gets some very large weight gain or loss. For some reason, I know a lot of female entrepreneurs / techies who drop weight like a rock after a bad business deal goes down.

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Go big or go home

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This is going big to me.

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Good move but don't expect to sell that for at least a year. If GT can leverage their butt hurt from the Apple deal into something good, they have a winner. My take is the assets will be sold to a larger materials house like 3M or Corning and rolled into their portfolio.


Or he could sell today and double his money.
 
Geez, give it a rest. Apple is one of the largest employers / creators of work in the US. Just think of how many construction workers are building the new Apple Campus 2 through 2016? That's just one example. Apple also has thousands of administrative, support, engineering and other technical employees directly employed. 700 jobs is a toss in the hat when you look at the bigger picture. I'm not saying that 700 job losses should be ignored, and as you've read here, Apple is committed to finding new jobs for those workers. This was not Apple's fault.. this was GTAT's mismanagement and failure to meet their obligations that THEY agreed to. Apple is doing the right thing, GTAT did not.

Could you imagine the jobs lost if Apple went down, catastrophic comes to mind!!!:eek:

Not only in the US, what about all the other country's that have Apple Stores
etc. Holy ****, what about China, the jobs they create assembling iPhone's/iPad's there? It's mind boggling!:cool:
 
Weight gain could be anything from change in relationship, side effect to medication or anything else.

I've known a lot of entrepreneurs who, after loosing a business, gets some very large weight gain or loss. For some reason, I know a lot of female entrepreneurs / techies who drop weight like a rock after a bad business deal goes down.

That is all true. But Jon needs to deal with it. Find the cause and fix it so then he can start on making himself thinner. Not easy but it's the harsh truth.
 
Apple to Continue Evaluating GT's Sapphire Production Progress, Looking for New Uses for Arizona Plant

How about turning the old plant and furnaces into a disco inferno… get it?? get it?? :(

Wacka, wacka
 

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US manufacturing continues to be a joke. First the Mac Pro delays and then this. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge this is blinded.

What is there to acknowledge? And why is it a joke? I don't remember any Mac Pro delays. Even if there was, it doesn't mean it was the fault of "US Manufacturing". There is also no evidence that GT sapphire production failure means US manufacturing is a joke. I think basing an option of US manufacturing off 2 incidents without any evidence is trolling. Does it make you feel better thinking US Manufacturing is a joke? What do you have to gain by spreading that false narrative?
 
I wonder if someone at Apple was fired over this. They threw $500 million at a company to mass produce sapphire using a production process that apparently didn't work. You'd think Apple would require them to show that they can actually get this to work before giving them the money to scale up to 2,000 furnaces. Why not start with 100 furnaces and see how that pans out? Looks like they were trying to rush a new feature, and lost the gamble.
 
I wonder if someone at Apple was fired over this. They threw $500 million at a company to mass produce sapphire using a production process that apparently didn't work. You'd think Apple would require them to show that they can actually get this to work before giving them the money to scale up to 2,000 furnaces. Why not start with 100 furnaces and see how that pans out? Looks like they were trying to rush a new feature, and lost the gamble.

We have no information to the effect that they did not, in fact, start with small-scale "proof of concept" before they started major manufacturing.

And, admittedly, we have no information to the effect that they did, but considering Apple's acumen in production processes, it stands to reason that they were more likely to have done such due diligence than not.

GTAT started as a manufacturer of sapphire boule furnaces so it stands to reason they were able to do test boules early on. It sounds that perhaps it was the scaling itself to 2000 furnaces was where the process hit snags.
 
All they need to do to solve everyone's problem is "blame the guy who can't speak English well."

That always works :D
 
They could make jewelry with those pretty crystals.

Poor planning on Apple's part ruins one of their fragile suppliers.
 
Jobs brought more manufacturing jobs to the USA.

Job: Zero manufacturing jobs brought to the USA.
Cook: Minus 700 (or so) jobs brought to the USA.

Cook through this collapse cost many manufacturing workers their jobs.

Your insight into this is fascinating. Please tell us more how this is Tim Cook's fault. I would love to hear your views.

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Poor planning on Apple's part ruins one of their fragile suppliers.

Could you please expand upon this and supply us with some analysis of what led you to this conclusion?
 
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