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PinkyMacGodess

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Had my PBPs for about 9 months and after extensive days at the gym, I can truly say they suck. Here's my biggest gripes...
1. Ear fatigue. Only a few youtubers who actually used them for a long period have called this out as well.
2. They move away from the ear canal after a little bit of hard lifting. I guess when I clench or something, it causes them to shift. This causes a lot of sound/bass/isolation loss. The whole ear hook design is oversold to consumers especially when they don't stay resting against the ear canal that well.
3. Sound isolation just sucks in general, even when switching to comply foam tips. They really need to redesign the ear tip...

I had issues with that in the beginning as well also, so I tried swapping the tips. I ended up with the smallest tips, and bending the loops in a lot so they hold the buds closer to my ears. They don't flop around anymore, and the sound is pretty good. On par with the BackBeat Fits I had. But ear fit is so unique to the person. I also wear glasses, and have to now believe that they are keeping the loops from causing issues. It's quite a dance to get the buds, loops, and tips to all play nice on some ear phones and ear buds. The wired PowerBeats never worked. They flopped around like wings, sound quality was nonexistent. IF the issues with the PBPs were fixed, I could see them being my all time favorites, but they turn on me with some degree of regularity, so yeah...
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Imagine being this neurotic

But it is a valid question. Why can't the cases match the color of the buds. It would make sense. *shrug* Not that I'd like a pink case, but (RED) would be cool. Easier to see/find...
 

McG2k1

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Power beats pro day one owner here. There are lots of hardware quality and design quality problems with them. The ear detection is pretty terrible, the cradle regularly doesn’t make a connection with one of them, one or the other won’t connect to Bluetooth randomly, the voice pickup on calls echos and the sound quality is inferior to the standard wired headphones.

When they are working they are great for walking and listening to podcasts, but I would trade them in tomorrow if it was possible.
 
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DoubleFlyaway

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I've had mine a year with no problems or complaints until yesterday, when my charging case died. It won't charge! I found another on eBay.
 

hiphopdan

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I think these colors are fantastic, especially the glacier blue. Obviously they aren't gonna be everyone's cup of tea.
 

MedRed

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No, you didn’t. And your ‘occupation’ has no relevance whatsoever of ‘sampling’ (Which I have no idea What metric you’re ‘using for sampling‘) for some thing that you seriously did not take the time to actually ‘skim’ through 9000 reviews and speculate anything from 1 to 5 stars talking about hardware issues, especially From the time you replied to my post, you’re claiming you skimmed through ‘one star reviews‘ about hardware issues? It’s not like I’m fabricating anything about issues with Beats, I read hundreds of reviews talking about that very issue, it’s a commonality Their hardware is inferior With the lifespan of durability In certain segments, which applies to Beats X as respectively.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but I’m very particular about headphones in general, I have no problem paying a higher price for a quality product, and beats is garbage with their hardware standards, when there are other companies That have similar pricing, and don’t struggle in that category with quality control.

I did. It's clear you're defensive, emotional, and incapable of having an adult discussion. Your assertion and claim don't jive with the source you sited specifically regarding the PBPs. You were called out on it and now you move the goalposts. Have the last word as you want. The case has already rested.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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I skimmed through the poor reviews. I'm familiar enough with sampling as data analysis is part of my occupation. I didn't set out to change your mind. I did my own research and saw that you were wrong with your assertion. No need to get defensive and throw up smoke screens.

I skimmed through the reviews too, and thought that all of the bad reviews were just people ripping Beats because they just hated the company. Now I see that I should have paid a little more attention to the bad reviews. Yes, sampling the reviews is important. So many people give bad reviews because that's what they do. And some products, and companies, are magnets for bad reviews because people have to hate? Human nature is crazy at times. I've enjoyed immensely movies that were 'widely panned' by average reviewers. It happens. Would I line up and buy the next Beats product that were to ship? I'd give it a thought, but probably pass on it. This is after owning two Beats products, and having a great experience with the first, and a decidedly not so great experience with the second. It's also hard to believe that the PBP issues aren't from a lack of engineering. They just flat out won't/don't work at times for no apparent reason. That is not a good 'feature' of a product. The fact that some people, a majority evidently, have no issues at all is also shocking. How did I get two bad pairs? Either Apple needs to do a better job with engineering to make them more consistent, they need to make it easier to test these products, or they need to just admit that 'Beats' is their 'low end loss leader brand', and price those products accordingly.

I expected better. The BeatsX is a great product. They work. The PBP is not a great product. They aren't reliable, and apparently Apple hasn't figued out how to make them with consistent quality to earn a better review from me. Twice bitten...
 

MedRed

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I skimmed through the reviews too, and thought that all of the bad reviews were just people ripping Beats because they just hated the company. Now I see that I should have paid a little more attention to the bad reviews. Yes, sampling the reviews is important. So many people give bad reviews because that's what they do. And some products, and companies, are magnets for bad reviews because people have to hate? Human nature is crazy at times. I've enjoyed immensely movies that were 'widely panned' by average reviewers. It happens. Would I line up and buy the next Beats product that were to ship? I'd give it a thought, but probably pass on it. This is after owning two Beats products, and having a great experience with the first, and a decidedly not so great experience with the second. It's also hard to believe that the PBP issues aren't from a lack of engineering. They just flat out won't/don't work at times for no apparent reason. That is not a good 'feature' of a product. The fact that some people, a majority evidently, have no issues at all is also shocking. How did I get two bad pairs? Either Apple needs to do a better job with engineering to make them more consistent, they need to make it easier to test these products, or they need to just admit that 'Beats' is their 'low end loss leader brand', and price those products accordingly.

I expected better. The BeatsX is a great product. They work. The PBP is not a great product. They aren't reliable, and apparently Apple hasn't figued out how to make them with consistent quality to earn a better review from me. Twice bitten...


His quote
The complaint I read Most was hardware issues With the construction falling apart in early months of ownership

Is unsubstantiated by the reviews he called out. The PBP don't have that issue at all. The negative reviews surrounding the PBP are connectivity and DTU issues. I have two pairs of PBP. One for the gym bag and one pair for running and walking around town. Anecdotally, I haven't suffered any construction issues. The case is too bulky to carry around, and without the case you can find yourself with one earbud not paired. The other issue is that they drain when not in use and in the case. Those are annoying issues, but definitely not "construction falling apart in early months of ownership."
 

PinkyMacGodess

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His quote

Is unsubstantiated by the reviews he called out. The PBP don't have that issue at all. The negative reviews surrounding the PBP are connectivity and DTU issues. I have two pairs of PBP. One for the gym bag and one pair for running and walking around town. Anecdotally, I haven't suffered any construction issues. The case is too bulky to carry around, and without the case you can find yourself with one earbud not paired. The other issue is that they drain when not in use and in the case. Those are annoying issues, but definitely not "construction falling apart in early months of ownership."

Yeah, so far, mine have not fallen apart. That would add another horrible level to the stuff I've been experiencing. They are solidly built, and so are the Beatsx, so 'build quality' hasn't been an issue. I was puzzled at people complaining about 'build quality'. Apple seems to use glue like it's free, so I imagine the buds and case probably use more glue than should be possible to keep them together. Glue isn't bad, as long as you don't have to repair them. I imagine they take the returned defective ones and toss them into a shredder and pull out the recyclable bits out of the mess left. If they are doing that, it's no wonder they haven't fixed the issue yet. *shrug*
 
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