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The issue of giant tech companies moving into cities and destroying housing affordability for people who don't work for those companies is well documented. Google and Microsoft have pledged $1.5 billion total dollars towards affordable housing in SF Bay Area and Seattle.

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/18/7337...lion-trying-to-tame-housing-costs-in-bay-area

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...ffordable-housing-in-seattle-and-on-eastside/

I would like to know if Apple is doing or planning to do something similar. During a recent commencement speech, Tim Cook said that tech companies need to take responsibility for the chaos they create. The housing issue would seem to fall within that chaos.

NO Apple! You do NOT want Microsoft's cast offs! Their best coders are bad enough!

And Tim Cook was a Compaq "cast off".
 
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The real answer is it will be people commuting in from the lower-cost extended suburbs (Seattle and it's satellite major cities have a pretty solid mass transit system that is actively being expanded).

Pretty solid mass transit system?? You clearly don’t live in the Seattle area. As someone who works and commutes to Seattle every day, “solid” is not the word I would use to describe its transit system. It does start with “s” though.
 
That bitch Durkin can go **** herself. She's such a snake in the grass. On one had she gets on her knees to big business when it makes her look good and on the other she denigrates them when the City Council tells her boo.

**** this ****.
 
That bitch Durkin can go **** herself. She's such a snake in the grass. On one had she gets on her knees to big business when it makes her look good and on the other she denigrates them when the City Council tells her boo.

**** this ****.
Well, she got voted in the office. Funny how people don't want to vote politicians off, because I guess if they did, it said that they made the wrong choice... :shrug:
 
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Not being flippant, but if 70% of your workforce requires post-secondary education, who's going to serve you food, ring up your groceries, or fix your plumbing?

Who can afford to?

o_O
Outsourcing.

This is how businesses going outside of U.S.

This is America in the 21st century, (and other highly developed 1st world nations). The kind of jobs that require less formal education (mining, manufacturing) have gone overseas where they are much much cheaper. They aren't coming back unless you can ban air travel and slow down sea based shipping. Affordable housing is absolutely an issue, but its not unique to Seattle by any means.

But you can't off-shore your local services like @trusso asked, and even if you outsource, the outsource company still needs to find people locally to provide the services.

This is a problem many big cities are facing - high wages of a large skilled/technical workforce push property prices up so only people earning those high wages can afford to live there, forcing out the nurses, waiters, workers, shop assistants, cleaners, security guards etc - the people you need to sustain a city.
 
Any time a big company creates more jobs in the USA, it's great for the economy and the community it's in. Two thousand jobs may not be a lot, but that's two thousand families that will benefit from this announcement.

I'm pretty sure someone will find something negative to say about this because, well, it's ingrained in a lot of people to complain about everything.

Well to prove you correct, yes I'm upset with this because this push is a direct result of why many of my coworkers are losing their contract employment with Apple.
 
If I was Apple, i would come back to Detroit, they use to have a office there back in the early 90's. And with automobile automation would be a good place. Plus having all your technology along the west coast. Subject to earthquakes, tsunami's. forest fires and disasters. Spreading your tech across the whole united states might be a good idea.
 
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If I was Apple, i would come back to Detroit, they use to have a office there back in the early 90's. And with automobile automation would be a good place. Plus having all your technology along the west coast. Subject to earthquakes, tsunami's. forest fires and disasters. Spreading your tech across the whole united states might be a good idea.

They do have people contracted to Apple there
 
Will these new positions augment the existing AI and iCloud development teams there or will they be tasked with other responsibilities in software?
 
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If I was Apple, i would come back to Detroit, they use to have a office there back in the early 90's. And with automobile automation would be a good place. Plus having all your technology along the west coast. Subject to earthquakes, tsunami's. forest fires and disasters. Spreading your tech across the whole united states might be a good idea.

I would love to see this as well. Detroit is working very hard to make itself a viable location once again. The cost of living on the west coast especially San Francisco has become unmanageable for all except the wealthy. :apple:
 
Maybe in America, in Europe, at least in the country I live in the effect of having a big percentage of educated and high salary populations it’s been that manual and service jobs are paid very well, well above the average of the other European countries even proportionally, and things worked out themselves.

I live in Northern VA and skilled labor is paid very well. Certified mechanics make 80-100K a year. My go to electrician (licensed master electrician) lives in a bigger house than I do - and I am a "well educated professional".
 
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Come to the state of Springfield Illinois real estate is plenty taxes are extreamly high and folks are moving out of the state in droves.
 
Would be nice if Apple would come to my desperate city of St Louis. But no one want to live in this humid, allergy prone hell hole ;_;

Sounds like Philly (where I live) without the refinery fires and "Gritty". Your team won the Cup. Ours folded when they were eliminated from the first round of the playoffs.
 
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I live here. Everything you noted is true. There’s no great public transportation, unless they’re talking about the one that will be completed in 2030-the light rail…

Ah yes. The perpetual dream of "light rail" in cities. Just like in Denver, Houston, North Haberbrook, Ogden, Brockway…

They get placed where no one really lives and go where no one really needs to go. They never solve the problem they were intended to solve. At best, suburbanites have a convenient way to get to subsidized sport stadiums, and suited businessmen can go to and from the airport in air conditioned comfort. Also, right next to the light rail stops will pop up new condos, eye-wateringly overpriced so that the people who least need to save money on "public transit" will use it for their own convenience.

But a boondoggle that launders money in the right direction? You bet!

So it ends up being congested traffic to get to the light rail, or, you have to leave your house to walk to a bus stop to wait 45 minutes to take a bus to the light rail.

"It'll be like Europe!" they all squeal. Completely disregarding the typical usable light rail in European cities in which people often use existing bike lanes to get there, not a "bike lane" that means weaving between parked cars and F-350s carrying lurching trailers of scrap metal over potholed streets. And old cities were built with tram infrastructures in mind, or old cow paths which are now bike lanes. American cities are bulldozed flat grids with lanes designed for nothing other than cars.

I've used the subway in Chicago and New York, and the difference is that those systems were built up when people really used them for public transport, not as show-pieces for money-laundering and greenwashing. There are huge problems with those systems, but it always dawned on me how bloody convenient it was that they were where they were with the realization that such a structure could never be built in a modern city by our modern planners.

The future of telecommuting and holographic telepresence cannot happen fast enough. Truth in point, I've done remote IT support for executives who have moved on to islands off the coast of Washington State, deliberately so that they do not have to commute to Seattle.
 
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