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Has it not dawned on any of you that one of the reasons Apple bought Workflow was the shut everyone of you up about simple repetitive tasks, while the main teams work on overhauling the AI backends?
 
I hate that when you do Hey Siri, you have to wait for the conformation tones before talking. With Echo Dot I just ask Alexa as if she was in the room with me.

I agree the delay is annoying. If they could at least increase the speed of the reaction time of Siri when prompting it, that would make it somewhat more efficient. Although, with the prompt at least I know I triggered Siri.
 
Can any of the competing voice assistants handle multilingual input? This is a very difficult problem to crack.

Having said that, Siri does need the ability to at least recognize a lot more non-English proper names. This is less about multilingual support and more about expanding Siri's voice recognition vocabulary to include non-English place names in the US.
I don't believe any of them do, and I acknowledge it is very difficult. And you're right that a good first step would be |handling non-English place names (and song titles). I'd be happy if I could at least tell French Siri something like « Je voudrais envoyer un mot à ma femme en anglais » and have it ready for English dictation. Maybe explicit labeling could work for place names and song titles too, as a first step.
 
Amazon's Alexa has great speech recognition. Amazon has leveraged that pretty well, but Alexa at its core is pretty stupid. Why?

In the integration docs, you basically get passed phrases from the Alexa speech-to-text engine. It's up to you, as the developer, to do something with those phrases.

In the end Alexa has no idea what you're actually trying to do; Alexa has just made the leap from ketwording to more natural language keywording.

Siri will make the next leap with Apple's purchase of that unstructured data firm; currently Siri just gives you a web page that you have to read, presumably found via a keyword search. In the next year it should be able to extract some meaning out of the page and figure out if that matches what you're trying to find, then read it to you.
 
Without Spotify or Google Music integration Siri will continue to be worthless.

Google has two music platforms (YouTube Red/Play Music) of their own to keep up revenue and subscribers. Yet they still allow for multiple music platforms to integrate into Google Assistant.

Is Apple really that scared of competition on their devices that they have to limit Siri to their own music service?

I don't use either Spotify or G Music, nor do millions of others. That is just you. Go get a Samsung phone.
 
siri hasn't earned my trust to do anything other than extremely simple tasks, and even then it fails. no way im calling an uber or anything more complex, last thing i need is the resulting headache

I sure as hell wouldn't trust her to order me an Uber. God knows where she would actually send you. At least the automated ubers have a driver in them.
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I don't use either Spotify or G Music, nor do millions of others. That is just you. Go get a Samsung phone.

Troll. Most IOS users are using Google services, and a crap load use Spotify. Google Music is a better deal than Apple music. It gets you YouTube Red, ad free YouTube, extra storage, full quality Google photos, and some other goodies for $9 a month of $15 for up to 5 people.

And I agree with the OP.... why is Apphole so afraid to open things up? Oh, because people would have choice....
 
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I'm not keeping my hopes up about Siri becoming usable for me anytime soon. I know some people find it very useful, but it's not reliable enough for me to use on a regular basis.

Headline of this story:

Apple to Expand Siri to Work With More Types of Third-Party Apps

My reaction is that I think this could be shortened to:

Apple to Expand Siri to Work
 
I just want to be able to ask "When does the next train/metro/tram/bus leave to there and there?" but even with transit directions in Maps there's no correct answer. When asking for transit directions I always have to unlock my phone instead of getting a straight answer.
 
I only use it to send texts in the car, but my 14-year-old son uses Siri constantly, most often while he's gaming and has his hands busy (setting timers and alarms, sending messages, controlling Music).

I want bilingual (at least) Siri. I want to dictate messages in French and English (and Spanish). I want to be able to ask for Siri to play songs with French or English (or Spanish) titles. Right now, if I have Siri set to English, she is useless asking her to play any of my collection of French music. If I set Siri to French, she is useless on English music.

Sending Texts with Siri is an absolute failure, Constantly having to shout and/or fail. Strongly considering carrying 2 phones for those things Apple just fails at.
 
Sending Texts with Siri is an absolute failure, Constantly having to shout and/or fail. Strongly considering carrying 2 phones for those things Apple just fails at.
I don't experience this at all. As long as I stick to a single language, Siri works just fine for sending messages.

Siri's actual dictation works quite well for me, in every language I've tried--mostly English, French, and Spanish, but also Russian and even Mandarin, where I only have a rudimentary vocabulary. But even if Siri comes up with the right words, her capabilities are far too limited to be broadly useful.
 
I hate that when you do Hey Siri, you have to wait for the conformation tones before talking. With Echo Dot I just ask Alexa as if she was in the room with me.

You don't have to wait for the tone. Just say "Hey Siri..." and your question/command right after it. 99.9% of the time it hears me perfectly. And I now realize this has already been said like 3 times so this is awkward...
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Siri's ride hailing integration actually works well.
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Scrubbing from Control Center works fine with Apple Music.
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https://www.stonetemple.com/digital-personal-assistants-test

Nice graphic, but dig a little deeper into the article. "All four of the personal assistants include capabilities to help take actions on your behalf (such as booking a reservation at a restaurant, ordering flowers, booking a flight), and that was not something we tested in this study. Basically, we focused on testing which of them was the smartest from a knowledge perspective."

Obviously Google will be better at answering general knowledge questions because they're Google. As I said "Google Assistant gets a ton of things wrong too, particularly with on-device tasks;" you replied with a study that specifically excluded on-device tasks. And your point is?
 
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