Apple to Fix Security Flaws in Jaguar

[greenstork]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple to Fix Security Flaws in Jaguar

Originally posted by beg_ne
Jeez, what's with you people. You get some stupid FUD laced, "Looks like Apple is forcing users to upgrade to Panther" statement which they have NO facts to back up and practically everyone follows along like lemmings.

Maybe you should switch to Windows if you have that little faith in Apple and are willing to take unsubstantiated comments from a PeeCee site as gospel.

I find your statement overzealous. It's very possible that this was a reactionary move by Apple.

Case in point. I am a G4 MDD owner. As you may or may not know, these are affectionaltely known as "windtunnels" because of their *VERY* loud fans. It took months of letter writing, press releases and even the formation of a G4 Noise website to elicit a reaction from Apple to provide a fix. Eventually they caved to the bad publicity and offered a Power Supply Exchange Program. For a few months there though, Apple was ignoring this problem. My point is that they aren't this all benevolent organization, they're a business. They will create strategies to make or save a buck and they do cave to bad press, like any *good* company should.

 

[bousozoku]

Re: Great News!

Originally posted by JoeMacDaddy


I'm very happy that Apple has taken the high road with the @Stake (Micro$oft backed hatchetmen), ZDnet and CNET and opted to supply updates to Jaguar. I am in the IT security business and while the @Stake report is true, the High rating is unwarranted. Since a malcontent must gain physical access to your machine and know precisely what to do, it highly unlikely the vulnerability would be exploited enmass. Therefore the threat was VERY overblown. This just shows the extent of YELLOW Journalism that is sytemic in the computer industry today. They will sell themselves on the street for a nickel. Whatever happend to the truth and unbiased journalism?

Just my $.02

You have to wonder about Microsoft's customer-vendor relationship with @Stake, especially after a very high profile person recently left the company over a report that Microsoft has security problems.

The eWeek article was mentioning that @Stake was concerned about the Core files problem, even though they couldn't re-create it, and that the Core files business isn't accessible normally.

Odd, these problems are blown out of proportion and iTunes for Windows is inflexible.

Conspiracies? Everybody needs at least one.

 

[greenstork]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple to Fix Security Flaws in Jaguar

Originally posted by beg_ne
Jeez, what's with you people. You get some stupid FUD laced, "Looks like Apple is forcing users to upgrade to Panther" statement which they have NO facts to back up and practically everyone follows along like lemmings.

Maybe you should switch to Windows if you have that little faith in Apple and are willing to take unsubstantiated comments from a PeeCee site as gospel.

I find your statement overzealous. It's very possible that this was a reactionary move by Apple.

 

[beg_ne]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple to Fix Security Flaws in Jaguar

Originally posted by greenstork
I find your statement overzealous. It's very possible that this was a reactionary move by Apple.

Case in point. I am a G4 MDD owner. As you may or may not know, these are affectionaltely known as "windtunnels" because of their *VERY* loud fans. It took months of letter writing, press releases and even the formation of a G4 Noise website to elicit a reaction from Apple to provide a fix. Eventually they caved to the bad publicity and offered a Power Supply Exchange Program. For a few months there though, Apple was ignoring this problem. My point is that they aren't this all benevolent organization, they're a business. They will create strategies to make or save a buck and they do cave to bad press, like any *good* company should.

You aren't seriously compairing patching security holes against your loud fans are you?

I don't recall Apple normally commenting on a security issue except to acknowledge it in the release notes for the patch. So why should we have expected them to do any different with these?

I find it laughable that so many people were able to fall victim to CNet's very obvious FUD. Doesn't anyone think for themselves anymore?

 

[Phil Of Mac]

Apple patched 10.1 after the release of Jaguar too. This isn't news.

 

[ITR 81]

Tech TV annouced yesterday that Apple offically stated they had the patched planned all along but wanted to get Panther out to customers first.

I think Leo said he eat his Mac if Apple didn't patch it by next week and Apple made the offical statement about the patch the very next day.

 

[sluxx]

Being open source has its advantages...

I have to say that I was having some doubts too as to whether Apple was going to address those problems in 10.2. Now I can breath a sigh of relief.

Darwin being an open source project probably helped in having Apple pushing out those updates. But I suppose unless something else major surfaces after this update, this will probably be the last major update release for 10.2 from Apple. After that we will have to compile our own codes, huh?

 

[Knox]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Apple to Fix Security Flaws in Jaguar

Originally posted by Lanbrown
At this point, does it matter? If they had a change of heart, then they learned a valuable lesson. If they planned all along to fix the vulnerabilities, then they still got the message from the customer base. So it's a win win no matter how you look at it.

It doesn't. I was simply pointing out that it's quite possible that what was written by CNET and the others *was* the truth at the time and not just some made up FUD. After all, why didn't Apple say that they were going to release fixes for earlier versions at the time the 10.3 fixes were released (even if they didn't actually release the fixes at the same time).

Originally posted by beg_ne
Maybe you should switch to Windows if you have that little faith in Apple and are willing to take unsubstantiated comments from a PeeCee site as gospel.

The comments that "Apple were always going to fix earlier versions" is equally unsubstantiated. In other words, no-one knows, as I stated originally.

 

[Phil Of Mac]

Apple released fixes for 10.1 after they released Jaguar, so no, it wasn't unsubstantiated to assume they'd similarly support Jaguar.

 

[ITR 81]

I guess everyone forgot about Apple to be rurmored to having an update as soon as 10.3 released?? Some said it was going to be extra programs and eyecandy but it was sec. patch. To me why would they release a patch for 10.2 when your trying to make 10.3 run as smoothly as possible. It's funny how folks get all crazy when OSX has error somewhere in the coding but if MS has one folks just take it with grain of salt.

Anyways I think sec. companies need report all exploits not just mostly Open Source based OS's like @Stake seems to do.

Plus, I could've went without the update because most folks don't get use my Mac.