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Apple executives wore AirPods in public. No Apple executive has worn Vision Pro in public to date.

That’s a MASSIVE red flag.

No it isn’t, they are completely different products. People listen to music in public, you are not wearing a vision pro in public.

Executives took Vision Pro home and used it, Tim Cook himself uses it.
 
It’s not necessarily something you wear around town dude!

Maybe in the near future you’ll wear it in a museum for sure - but give it some time.

executives on lazyboy watching a movie? Yes, more plausible right now.

The executives of the company that make it won’t be shown wearing it. Rationalize it away all you like, but it’s a massive red flag.
 
No it isn’t, they are completely different products. People listen to music in public, you are not wearing a vision pro in public.

Executives took Vision Pro home and used it, Tim Cook himself uses it.

Listen to yourself.

They’re trying to sell it. They want people to wear it. But THEY won’t put it on when a camera is around. If you can’t see why that’s problematic that’s on you, not me.
 
is that the earliest pre-order time they've ever had? Guess I won't be sleeping next Thursday...
 
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I think it's a stupid product. But there are LOTS of people — including those below the poverty line — who buy things to combat a false sense of disempowerment. People open and max credit cards all the time for this. 3500 may be on the steeper side, but rest assured a *true* lack of affordability won't necessarily be a stopping force for a good number of people who buy this.
Or maybe they buy things (often foolishly) because they like them....
 
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Maybe. At what point will Apple find the limit of what their customers will pay. I don’t know. I thought it was a couple of price increases ago but was proven wrong.
The 🐑 will continue to pay. Don't you worry about that
 
Of course, want guesstimate numbers at call not actual order numbers. Can kick down road till next quarter and hopefully other products could cover if any bad news.
 
Then why haven’t they done it? Are they “dumb” or is it that they know the headset looks stupid and that they’ll damage sales if they wear it for people to mock?
No executives were walking around with the iPhone between the original tease and the actual keynote launch. There were press releases and information drops but none were shown in the wild. What matters is after the actual launch.

Besides, it’s an attractive and nicely designed VR headset. you’re acting like no one knows what it looks like just because there aren’t executives wearing it.
 
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No executives were walking around with the iPhone between the original tease and the actual keynote launch. There were press releases and information drops but none were shown in the wild. What matters is after the actual launch.

iPhone doesn’t make you look like a sad dork and your assertion that no Apple executive was seen with one before the keynote is a non-point. No one saw Vision Pro before the keynote either… and since then no Apple executive had been shown wearing one. Because they don’t want to get mocked for how stupid it looks.
 
The waiting moment for all interested to get Vision Pro is getting close to end. Keep calm, no worries of long time waiting and be happy when the time arrives! 😊
 
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iPhone doesn’t make you look like a sad dork
Purely subjective statement.
and your assertion that no Apple executive was seen with one before the keynote is a non-point. No one saw Vision Pro before the keynote either… and since then no Apple executive had been shown wearing one. Because they don’t want to get mocked for how stupid it looks.
Apple had an iPhone reveal ketynote around half a year before the iPhone release keynote. No executives were shown holding the iPhone in the wild between those two events… just like the AV. So if this means that Apple is ashamed of the AV’s design, they were also ashamed of the iPhone’s design.
 
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That thing looks so bad how can that be an Apple product?
There are no goggles that looks good. At least none that can house an array of sensors.

Apple could have gone with more of a helmet concept, and jazzed up the looks (similar to skateboarders or bicyclists), but I guess selling a helmet display would have been harder.
 
Purely subjective statement.

Except it isn’t. Again, no Apple executive has been photographed actually wearing it. That’s a red flag.

Apple had an iPhone reveal ketynote around half a year before the iPhone release keynote. No executives were shown holding the iPhone in the wild between those two events… just like the AV. So if this means that Apple is ashamed of the AV’s design, they were also ashamed of the iPhone’s design.

So? Proves nothing. There’s a reason the Apple team won’t wear it. It looks dumb and they’ll get flooded with negative memes.
 
Except it isn’t. Again, no Apple executive has been photographed actually wearing it. That’s a red flag.
No apple executive was photographed with the iPhone before its launch announcement. What a red flag.
So? Proves nothing. There’s a reason the Apple team won’t wear it. It looks dumb and they’ll get flooded with negative memes.
It proves your theory is incorrect.
 
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No apple executive was photographed with the iPhone before its launch announcement. What a red flag.

Not the same. iPhone doesn’t go on your face.

It proves your theory is incorrect.
No it doesn’t, but your response strongly suggests you aren’t really thinking rationally and objectively about it. If Apple was confident it looked cool they’d have been shown wearing it by now. But they won’t because they know it looks dumb and mockable.
 
Not the same. iPhone doesn’t go on your face.
Stunning and accurate observation.
No it doesn’t, but your response strongly suggests you aren’t really thinking rationally and objectively about it. If Apple was confident it looked cool they’d have been shown wearing it by now. But they won’t because they know it looks dumb and mockable.
Well one of us isn’t using rational thought.

If the only reason why Apple hasn’t shown execs wearing the AV is due to fear of appearance based mockery, then there should have been no reason not to show photographs of Apple execs using the iPhone, which as you correctly pointed out does not go on your face, in the wild prior to launch.

The iPhone looked incredibly cool in 2007 so the internet should have been plastered with photos of Apple execs using, or at the very least holding it prior to launch…but it wasn’t.
 
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no Apple executive has been photographed actually wearing it.
That of course was a story two days ago on Business Insider, that the NY Post ran, that Gurman picked up on... etc.

The claim is an old one, such as this from last June: Why doesn’t Tim Cook wear Vision Pro in public? To avoid becoming a meme!

I'm not sure it is really significant, though. The device has clearly been through many design revisions, with the latest version looking different than the one in the videos created just a few months before.

After it is launched, then if Cook et. al. are not seen wearing one the argument will be stronger.

I don't think it looks "dumb", any more than any other type of human headdress.


However, I do think Apple should have gone with some designer labels and have optional designer-specific looks.
 
Stunning and accurate observation.

Well one of us isn’t using rational thought.

If the only reason why Apple hasn’t shown execs wearing the AV is due to fear of appearance based mockery, then there should have been no reason not to show photographs of Apple execs using the iPhone, which as you correctly pointed out does not go on your face, in the wild prior to launch.

The iPhone looked incredibly cool in 2007 so the internet should have been plastered with photos of Apple execs using, or at the very least holding it prior to launch…but it wasn’t.

Your iPhone analogy is going nowhere. There’s no comparison between the two products. That argument is a reach at best.

Look, I get you don’t want to admit it, but the device is not cool looking and it’s very obvious why none of Apple’s team will be seen wearing it.
 
That of course was a story two days ago on Business Insider, that the NY Post ran, that Gurman picked up on... etc.

The claim is an old one, such as this from last June: Why doesn’t Tim Cook wear Vision Pro in public? To avoid becoming a meme!

I'm not sure it is really significant, though. The device has clearly been through many design revisions, with the latest version looking different than the one in the videos created just a few months before.

After it is launched, then if Cook et. al. are not seen wearing one the argument will be stronger.

I don't think it looks "dumb", any more than any other type of human headdress.


However, I do think Apple should have gone with some designer labels and have optional designer-specific looks.

It may be a story that got picked up recently but if you’ve read anything I’ve written about the device over the last few months you’ll see that I’ve brought this up several times before and LONG before whatever article just came out.
 
Your iPhone analogy is going nowhere. There’s no comparison between the two products. That argument is a reach at best.

Look, I get you don’t want to admit it, but the device is not cool looking and it’s very obvious why none of Apple’s team will be seen wearing it.
My analogy is accurate, you just don't want to admit it because you really dislike AV.

Since there were no concerns about appearance based mockery, which is the reason you suggest why there are no photos of execs using AV, why were no execs shown using the iPhone prior to launch?
 
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