Anuba
macrumors 68040
Yeah, well, it's not. It's one of the weakest points. People who love Win7 put the control panel in the "The 10% that still sucks as much as Vista" category.
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Apple to Introduce Cheaper Macs?
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dukebound85
macrumors Core
what competition? apple buys the same components yet forces them in tiny spaces
my built pcs have never had issues
then again, im not a fan of apple at all, only a fan of osx
Anuba
macrumors 68040
Yes, but you see, Apple wants a much higher profit on their machines than everybody else gets. So, if Apple were to lower their prices to the same level as everybody else, but still keep the profit at standard Apple level, they would have to produce junk. They would dig for parts in garbage piles outside PC factories.
DMann
macrumors 601
Along with Hibernation, Sleep, most of the desktop Gadgets, the redundant actions necessary for ejecting a device, not being able to drop what you want into the 'cloned' taskbar, and having no upgrade path from XP... to name some few.
charlituna
macrumors G3
they aren't likely to recreate their machines. the more likely is to drop the markup of the same models. which might drop everything down $100-200.
Goona
macrumors 68020
Pika
macrumors 68000
I just took a look and...
Mac Pro:
Two 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
6GB (6x1GB)
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB
One 18x SuperDrive
Apple Mighty Mouse
Apple Keyboard with Numeric Keypad (English) and User's Guide
$6,199.00
Dell Precision
SAME CONFIG with the exception of a vastly inferior GPU
$7,566
There you have it, The dell costs over $1000 more
This is the main reason why i bought the Mac Pro in my signature.
DMann
macrumors 601
Are we to suppose that the customer satisfaction ratings were all fixed then?
Goona
macrumors 68020
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Is this an official club you represent? I will add you to the "effusive praisers for Win7 before release" group so I can refer to you when the crap officially starts to float to the top post-release. 🙂
You got the Obama/Win7 thing right in one regard, in that MS will be trying to sell it on the "Hope" theme. Kinda hard to go with the "Change You Can Believe In" theme when they're the ones that pumped out the previous turd...
Anuba
macrumors 68040
BMW has a higher failure rate than Toyota, but BMW customers are more satisfied. Customer satisfaction is a very broad term that could mean anything. For example, they could be so thrilled with OS X that even though the machine breaks, they still give a higher satisfaction rating than if they had used a Windows PC that didn't break. Customer satisfaction ratings are very far from an ideal measure of hardware build quality.
dukebound85
macrumors Core
i did say from my experience🙄
ive had issues with every apple product ive boughten
iphone cracks
emac screen doesnt turn on
mb had a bulging batt
mb suffered from random shutdown syndrom
apples track record isnt 100% positive in terms of customer satisfaction.......
FF_productions
macrumors 68030
You're telling me Apple can't put lower powered processors into their computers and not retain good quality machines? Some of you people really get on my nerves. You're willing to pay X amount, and wouldn't consider a lower price?
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Sadly, the car analogy fails again as Apple leads not only in customer satisfaction, but in reliability as well. 😀
I guess you could call Apple the ultimate BMW/Toyota hybrid. While Microsoft would be...Daewoo??? "Lauren needs a new car for $5,000. We told her 'You find it, you keep it!'"
Not hard to do when you sell 6 computers compared to the 8 billion sold by your competitor. Statistics are scary in the hands of the uninformed.
Anuba
macrumors 68040
No, no, no. I made the same mistake the first time I tried. Dell has a myriad of different CPU configs and the one you selected uses a MUCH more expensive Nehalem model than the one you get in a Mac Pro quad-core. We've been over this in other threads. The config we used was the quad-core 2.93 w/ 6 GB RAM, two 640 GB hard drives (750 GB for the Dell) and a 512 MB ATI card. The Mac ended up costing nearly $1000 more.
Far from it, I'm a platform agnostic who uses both Mac and PC. I have no loyalties either way. You on the other hand are a religious freak with a blind faith in one platform and blind hatred towards the other. Replace Windows with Satan and Winbots with demons and you could start yourself a little church.LagunaSol said:
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
LagunaSol
macrumors 601
Wrong. I am a dual-platform user who actually spends more time in Windows and detests the amount of sheer agony that steaming pile of code adds to my life.
Your weak stereotyping fails to stick.
NT1440
macrumors P6
So they as a company work differently than others, they manage to have phenomenal satisfaction and reliability ratings. You say its scary to state facts?
DMann
macrumors 601
iphone cracks - the use of plastic is a tradeoff for better GPS and 3G reception - an aluminum back would likely not have cracked. Plastic, no matter what grade, is prone to cracking. Until carbon fiber becomes cost effective, we'll have to live with it - hardly a quality issue.
emac screen doesnt turn on - likely a loose connection.
mb had a bulging batt - to my knowledge, Apple neither designs nor manufactures batteries for laptops. Applecare will cover the cost, nonetheless.
mb suffered from random shutdown syndrom - most likely due to an overheating issue - this problem has since been resolved. These are not necessarily quality issues.
What would have made you "bail" when you turned the power on? I switched from Windows XP a couple years ago and found OS X to be sleeker, more attractive and rock solid, compared to my Windows experience.
Click on the 'Get an education discount' icon - there are big savings both at Apple stores and online for people in education - students and institutions - that's where you'll find your $899 iMac. <joke>Boy, I hope your educational research is better than your online research.</joke>
Eric S.
macrumors 68040
A hypothetical that is relevant how? Yes, it's hard for companies that market an integrated solution, because they get targeted at all points of the spectrum (different market, but just look at what happened to Sun). But that's the situation Apple is in. Apple got a gigantic boost because Vista was such a huge PR disaster. But a lot of folks who panned Vista are rolling over to praise Windows 7. Microsoft built its empire on the willingness of consumers to buy cheap crap rather than higher-quality, higher-cost products. Once Windows 7 comes out as the "fix" for Vista, Apple's computer product line will be under a lot more pressure than it has been for the last couple years.