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Apple to Launch 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With More Power-Efficient Displays This Year, Claims Report
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Unless Apple facing major production delay with M3 Pro/Max and planning to shift them from TSMC N3B to N3E which will take 1 year+
There is no way Apple will release new MBP with the same SoC from last year.
Plus usually M3 should arrive on the regular MacBook 13/Air first, before production of the larger SoC Pro/Max.
There is no way Apple will release new MBP with the same SoC from last year.
Plus usually M3 should arrive on the regular MacBook 13/Air first, before production of the larger SoC Pro/Max.
Same. I got my M1 Max 14” MacBook Pro and it feels like I got it so recent, but has it already been two years…?
How about some 27" and 32" XDR iMac love, Tim? Trying to edit and color correct 4K/6K/8K HDR footage on a 16.2" MBP display is a form of user-base cruelty, please make it stop! LOL
It's counterintuitive because they say "brighter, but not really", as if, according to your analogy, the engine has more power but the car isn't any faster. If they meant more efficient, they should have said more efficient.
Brightness and efficiency (or power and efficiency) really have nothing to do with each other, since you can always increase brightness by just pumping more power through the chips -- this makes them LESS efficient at the higher brightness and doesn't affect efficiency at lower brightness at all. Alternatively, if the LEDs are more efficient, then they could theoretically be brighter at the same power draw or lower power draw at the same brightness, assuming the output curves don't cross. This is what they meant, but they should have said it this way.
I'm trying to think about what improvements might get me to upgrade next year, and power improvements doesn't even make the list. Even at full blast it still only pulls as much power as bright light bulb, and when running normal workloads on battery, I can make a transatlantic flight on a single charge.
Thunderbolt 5 would be nice, so I don't have to use three different ports to drive my 3 5K monitors, but not enough to upgrade by itself. Now, more thunderbolt ports and dumping the SD card and HDMI? That would be an immediate upgrade trigger.
More performance? Not unless it's substantial - like in the 30% single core range. Ditto on more cores.
Better GPU performance and eGPU support are much less a driver now that I have a gaming PC with a 4090. But if I didn't, then that would have been a trigger (especially eGPU support).
More RAM? Not really - if I upgrade, I'd go over 64, but don't really need it often.
Faster storage? Nope. Bigger storage at a reasonable price? Yeah, not happening...this is Apple after all.
In other words, as I'm working on my budget for next year, I don't expect to upgrade the M1.
Thunderbolt 5 would be nice, so I don't have to use three different ports to drive my 3 5K monitors, but not enough to upgrade by itself. Now, more thunderbolt ports and dumping the SD card and HDMI? That would be an immediate upgrade trigger.
More performance? Not unless it's substantial - like in the 30% single core range. Ditto on more cores.
Better GPU performance and eGPU support are much less a driver now that I have a gaming PC with a 4090. But if I didn't, then that would have been a trigger (especially eGPU support).
More RAM? Not really - if I upgrade, I'd go over 64, but don't really need it often.
Faster storage? Nope. Bigger storage at a reasonable price? Yeah, not happening...this is Apple after all.
In other words, as I'm working on my budget for next year, I don't expect to upgrade the M1.
It's just click bait 😏
Apple is preparing to release new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with more power-efficient mini-LED displays before the year is out, claims a new report by DigiTimes.
Perhaps counterintuitively on first reading, the claim is that the increased brightness the enhanced mini-LED displays are capable of will not result in perceivably brighter displays on the MacBook Pro. Instead, the mini-LEDs will output the same brightness but use less power in the process. From the report:
These claims are not out of the question, but there's good reason to doubt the launch timing in DigiTimes' latest supply chain report. Apple updated the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro with M2 Pro and M2 Max chips in January, and most rumors suggest refreshed models are coming next year.
According to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the next version of these two machines are expected to feature M3 Pro and M3 Max chips and will "probably" launch by the middle of 2024 at the latest. Likewise, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes new MacBook Pro models with updated 3-nanometer M3 Pro and M3 Max chips are set to launch in 2024.
Having said that, MacRumors received information earlier this week that indicates Apple will likely begin accepting some of its latest Mac models for trade-in this month, suggesting it may be proceeding with plans to release a new Mac model imminently. Whether this correlates with the launch of at least one new machine around mid-October remains to be seen.
The second part of the report is more aligned with rumor consensus, and goes on to suggest that the iPad Pro series may give up mini-LED backlighting and switch to hybrid OLED in 2024, while the MacBook Pro devices will continue using mini-LED until 2026, citing the burn-in problem usually associated with OLED screens as a remaining concern given that laptops tend to be left on for extended periods.
Apple is widely rumored to be working on OLED technology for future Macs and iPads, and the company is expected to switch iPad Pro models to OLED displays next year. iPad Pro display sizes are expected to see a slight increase from 11 and 12.9 inches currently to 11.1 and 13 inches with the next models. Apple is rumored to be planning to start mass production at the beginning of 2024.
Meanwhile, the 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are not expected to be upgraded with OLED display technology until 2026. That is when Apple's supply chain is expected to have sufficient notebook-optimized OLED display production capacity, according to Ross Young, CEO of Display Supply Chain Consultants. Until then, Young believes suppliers will be focused on OLED displays for tablets, such as the iPad Pro, although an OLED MacBook Air could come earlier.
DigiTimes obtains its information from the suppliers who manufacture parts for iPhones and other Apple products. Its sources often provide reliable information, but the site has a mixed track record when it comes to interpreting that information and accurately deciphering Apple's plans. It is often best to view information from the site with some skepticism until the info is corroborated by additional sources, especially when it comes to rumors.
Article Link: Apple to Launch 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With More Power-Efficient Displays This Year, Claims Report
No way the Pro's will be released, before the AIR & 13" Pro with an M3.
An optional Touch Bar, at least 20% faster single core, Face ID, a better a 4k camera and 2000 nits for working outside in the sun (without an App), would definitely make me upgrade my M1 13" to a 14" 😊
But they're definitely not coming out this year!
The report does not align with other reports
- low yield 3nm fab output
- 19.5 month Mac chip refresh cycle from M1 to M2 will apply to the M3 by Q1 2024 before April 2024
- All Macs but the 2021 iMac 24" M1 being refreshed to M2
- No 2020 iMac 27" Intel replacement
List of devices that are most likely to refresh before 2024:
- 2020 HomePod mini S5
- 2020 AirPods Max H1*
- 2021 iPad mini A15 Bionic
- 2021 Airpods H1*
- 2022 iPad Air M1
- 2022 iPhone SE A15 Bionic*
- 2022 Apple Watch SE S8
- 2022 iPad A14 Bionic
- 2022 Apple TV 4K A15 Bionic
*All refreshed devices using Lightning ports will transition to USB-C ports in compliance to EU law.
The newer Apple chips are the M2, H2, S9, A16 Bionic & A17 Pro.
To exceed USB-C 480Mbps data speeds will require a A17 Pro chip.
The 1st 5nm Apple chip is the A14 Bionic while the 1st 3nm Apple chip is the A17 Pro.
- low yield 3nm fab output
- 19.5 month Mac chip refresh cycle from M1 to M2 will apply to the M3 by Q1 2024 before April 2024
- All Macs but the 2021 iMac 24" M1 being refreshed to M2
- No 2020 iMac 27" Intel replacement
List of devices that are most likely to refresh before 2024:
- 2020 HomePod mini S5
- 2020 AirPods Max H1*
- 2021 iPad mini A15 Bionic
- 2021 Airpods H1*
- 2022 iPad Air M1
- 2022 iPhone SE A15 Bionic*
- 2022 Apple Watch SE S8
- 2022 iPad A14 Bionic
- 2022 Apple TV 4K A15 Bionic
*All refreshed devices using Lightning ports will transition to USB-C ports in compliance to EU law.
The newer Apple chips are the M2, H2, S9, A16 Bionic & A17 Pro.
To exceed USB-C 480Mbps data speeds will require a A17 Pro chip.
The 1st 5nm Apple chip is the A14 Bionic while the 1st 3nm Apple chip is the A17 Pro.
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Rumor sites needs ad revenue.
Only persons interested with anything Apple would click on it.
If Samsung came out with a Galaxy I wouldn't click on it but an angry Android nerd will click on any competing Apple product.
The perfect image they produce doesn't explain it?
The downsides have already been solved (double-stack layers, resilient blue diode) and so what we're waiting for is for licensing and mass producers (eg. Samsung) to put them into mass production next year for the clients that will fund through any yield issues (ie. Apple). Hence the rumor that Apple is releasing OLED iPad Pros in 2024/2025, and OLED MacBooks in 2027. Apple is very conservative when it comes to moving to a new screen technology platform, since they get so much scrutiny (looking at you butterfly keyboard) so you know its going to about perfect when they do.
Remember that LCD had the same burn-in and brightness issues, among other issues like ghosting and poor viewing angles, when it first became available—they were very problematic for early adopters—but after many decades those issues were a thing of the past; and OLED will follow the same.
microLED is currently more suitable for large outdoor screens (eg. at stadiums, Times Square NYC, locations in Qatar) but is still incredibly expensive to produce, not suitable for consumer devices. The smallest devices with microLED is a 110-inch television that costs $150,000, and I think an 86-inch for $80,000. Samsung has a proof-of-concept 50-inch microLED TV but its probably too expensive to even produce ten of them and so it won't go on sale. LG purchased a whole bunch of patents to be able to increase yields for small devices, so its rumored they will help Apple bring microLED to Apple Watch Ultra in 2026, but keep in mind that to make this happen, they literally have to stop and then repair defective microLEDs, during the production process, just to keep yields up—so LG has to figure out how to make that happen, and theres delay after delay with it. I wouldn't be surprised if it took 2030 before we saw it in Apple Watches, and then another 5+ years before they made it to Macs.
We need something in between and that is OLED.
(Keep in mind that while OLED is "perfect" for indoors, microLED can get bright enough to compete with the sun, which is why Apple wants it for Apple Watch Ultra, and why eventually we want it for HDR screens—since 10,000 nits is what competes with the sun and therefore can produce images indistinguishable from reality since outdoor highlights reach 10,000 nits easily).
Digitimes......deja vu:- 
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New 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pros Reportedly Launching Later This Year
Apple plans to release new MacBook Pro models in the fourth quarter of 2022, according to supply chain publication DigiTimes. The report does not...
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Apple is preparing to release new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with more power-efficient mini-LED displays before the year is out, claims a new report by DigiTimes.
Perhaps counterintuitively on first reading, the claim is that the increased brightness the enhanced mini-LED displays are capable of will not result in perceivably brighter displays on the MacBook Pro. Instead, the mini-LEDs will output the same brightness but use less power in the process. From the report:
These claims are not out of the question, but there's good reason to doubt the launch timing in DigiTimes' latest supply chain report. Apple updated the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro with M2 Pro and M2 Max chips in January, and most rumors suggest refreshed models are coming next year.
According to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the next version of these two machines are expected to feature M3 Pro and M3 Max chips and will "probably" launch by the middle of 2024 at the latest. Likewise, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes new MacBook Pro models with updated 3-nanometer M3 Pro and M3 Max chips are set to launch in 2024.
Having said that, MacRumors received information earlier this week that indicates Apple will likely begin accepting some of its latest Mac models for trade-in this month, suggesting it may be proceeding with plans to release a new Mac model imminently. Whether this correlates with the launch of at least one new machine around mid-October remains to be seen.
The second part of the report is more aligned with rumor consensus, and goes on to suggest that the iPad Pro series may give up mini-LED backlighting and switch to hybrid OLED in 2024, while the MacBook Pro devices will continue using mini-LED until 2026, citing the burn-in problem usually associated with OLED screens as a remaining concern given that laptops tend to be left on for extended periods.
Apple is widely rumored to be working on OLED technology for future Macs and iPads, and the company is expected to switch iPad Pro models to OLED displays next year. iPad Pro display sizes are expected to see a slight increase from 11 and 12.9 inches currently to 11.1 and 13 inches with the next models. Apple is rumored to be planning to start mass production at the beginning of 2024.
Meanwhile, the 14 and 16-inch MacBook Pro models are not expected to be upgraded with OLED display technology until 2026. That is when Apple's supply chain is expected to have sufficient notebook-optimized OLED display production capacity, according to Ross Young, CEO of Display Supply Chain Consultants. Until then, Young believes suppliers will be focused on OLED displays for tablets, such as the iPad Pro, although an OLED MacBook Air could come earlier.
DigiTimes obtains its information from the suppliers who manufacture parts for iPhones and other Apple products. Its sources often provide reliable information, but the site has a mixed track record when it comes to interpreting that information and accurately deciphering Apple's plans. It is often best to view information from the site with some skepticism until the info is corroborated by additional sources, especially when it comes to rumors.
Article Link: Apple to Launch 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro Models With More Power-Efficient Displays This Year, Claims Report
I wish this sketchy, untrustworthy rumor was TRUE.
I’d buy a maxxed out 16" M3 MacBook Pro instantly.
Everything could be in place for Apple to do this.
The question is, will Apple update the higher-end MacBook Pros in the same year?
They released the 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pros in January of this year.
Will they update them as soon as October of the same year?
It would be out of convention if they did, but I wish it were true.
I’d buy a new maxxed out 16-inch M3 MacBook Pro in a heartbeat!