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Clearly you don't get it. Scenes.. timing.. Activity based. Location based etc. IR is useless In a lot of circumstances.

I have a set of steps between floors that is fairly steep and narrow. When I enter the steps area, the light comes on. When I leave the steps area, it goes off a time later. I touch nothing. Pretty handy in the middle of the night. Can also manually control the light from my iPhone or via any number of other means.
 
I have a set of steps between floors that is fairly steep and narrow. When I enter the steps area, the light comes on. When I leave the steps area, it goes off a time later. I touch nothing. Pretty handy in the middle of the night. Can also manually control the light from my iPhone or via any number of other means.

I also have motion-controlled lights on a steps area. Very convenient at night coming or going and it turns off a few minutes later. However I can only adjust the timer manually on the sensor with a screwdriver.
 
You seriously compared an iPod to Home Automation? Home Automation is not something you go to an Apple Store and buy. You don't just unwrap it, turn it on and BOOM! everything just works. You have to spend $10-$20K to hard-wire a house to one or more automation controllers first. Home automation has already existed for years in the form of alarms, motion sensors, thermostats. However, existing homes are a mish-mash of these things and what controller units they have would not talk a TCP protocol for controller via a mobile OS app. This is where a NEST comes in, but that's just a thermostat. You literally need a NEST blind, NEST lights, etc...

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Once you've got the home automation controller set up, whether you use touch controls on a GUI or issue the command via Siri makes no difference. You've already solved the hardest part.


From a operational perspective certainly, but not from a total integration perspective.

If you spend the cash to have a dedicated automation system installed it still isn't totally integrated with all of your devices. Odds are that if the system is accessible remotely via an app that the app doesn't have all of the features you want. Also you more than likely can only use devices that are provided by the controller manufacture.

Today there are a ton of technologies like zigbee and zwave that make wireless home automation very simple. If you take these technologies and combine them with a consistent, functional, and open web API you open up a lot more possibilities than a proprietary controller based system.
 
For once, Apple is way, way, way behind the curve. I've been doing this for years with my Universal Devices ISY and Insteon controls. I have an app on my phone which connects me to my router via a forwarded port and I can sit in Bora Bora and turn on my pool pump at home (and I did).
 
For once, Apple is way, way, way behind the curve. I've been doing this for years with my Universal Devices ISY and Insteon controls. I have an app on my phone which connects me to my router via a forwarded port and I can sit in Bora Bora and turn on my pool pump at home (and I did).

But you have to think of the everyday user. I think Apple getting into this field will be great for home automation to get to the less tech-inclined crowd.

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Clever. But not as clever as AdBlock. ;)

Fun games to play when you're bored on the Internet, visit random pages and try to get adblock to show the largest number of blocked ads on one page. I haven't made triple digits yet, but I shall

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I'm always suspicious when I read "The piece notes that plans can always change" because plans for WWDC aren't going to change between now and next week in anything but the most minor ways.
 
but the vast majority of people don't own iPhone or Apple products, so it makes sense to make any hardware work with the larger audience.

There are hundreds of millions of iPhones and iPads out in the world right now. That's plenty.

How many hardware devices only work with Apple products today?
 
The reason home automation has never taken off is due to the fact that they want a monthly fee to access your home. That model is stupid and I hope Apple breaks it.

Gee pay 300 for a new door lock and pay only 9.99 a month to monitor it... :rolleyes: no thanks.
 
A Google shower would make you sign in to Google+, track how many times per day you shower, then sell it to advertisers.

A Facebook shower would have a camera watch you so you can share it with your friends

An Apple shower would only work with an obscure showerhead that uses a non-standard connection, would be no longer supported after 5 years, and would force you to buy a new home to upgrade.

A Linux shower would require that you first spend 40 years becoming a master plumber, carpenter, engineer, and electrician, renovate your entire house from the ground up to install it, and would not be compatible with your utility company's water.
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For once, Apple is way, way, way behind the curve. I've been doing this for years with my Universal Devices ISY and Insteon controls. I have an app on my phone which connects me to my router via a forwarded port and I can sit in Bora Bora and turn on my pool pump at home (and I did).

For once? I don't see how the situation is any different than other product categories they entered.

They didn't make the first computer, MP3 player, first touch-screen smartphone or first tablet. They were the first to make them in a way that makes sense for the average user.

Your solution doesn't sound like it does, and will probably feel like a Windows XP tablet PC next to an iPad if Apple ever releases their own user-friendly, polished home automation products/software.
 
If it is anything less that I have been doing for a couple of years without a recurring monthly extortion fee, I'm not sure it will be a huge draw.

 
For once, Apple is way, way, way behind the curve. I've been doing this for years with my Universal Devices ISY and Insteon controls. I have an app on my phone which connects me to my router via a forwarded port and I can sit in Bora Bora and turn on my pool pump at home (and I did).

Apple will probably integrate controls into Control Center allowing people to interact with their appliances without even unlocking their device (let alone open an app). Currently this is not possible.

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If it is anything less that I have been doing for a couple of years without a recurring monthly extortion fee, I'm not sure it will be a huge draw.

YouTube: video

This is sorcery. BURN IT.
 
A Google shower would make you sign in to Google+, track how many times per day you shower, then sell it to advertisers.

A Facebook shower would have a camera watch you so you can share it with your friends

An Apple shower would only work with an obscure showerhead that uses a non-standard connection, would be no longer supported after 5 years, and would force you to buy a new home to upgrade.

A Linux shower would require that you first spend 40 years becoming a master plumber, carpenter, engineer, and electrician, renovate your entire house from the ground up to install it, and would not be compatible with your utility company's water.

This might be the best post I have read in a long time.:D
 
I am not going to dismiss this as "no wa this will be successful", but I can say if this is lightbulb, mini blind, AC type of automation, it is going to have to become a LOT more affordable for me to care about it. Dropping $80 per light socket (as an example) just to be able to tweak that tuff from anywhere in the world isn't my idea of a was expenditure of money.

Of course, this could be totally amazing and do so much more than anyone, including myself, can currently imagine. It may very well knock my socks off. I guess what I am saying is that everything that nest currently is is a "wow, neat, but I'll pass" sort of thing for me.
 
The reason home automation has never taken off is due to the fact that they want a monthly fee to access your home. That model is stupid and I hope Apple breaks it.

Gee pay 300 for a new door lock and pay only 9.99 a month to monitor it... :rolleyes: no thanks.

My door lock system cost about $150 and has zero recurring costs.
 
But you have to think of the everyday user. I think Apple getting into this field will be great for home automation to get to the less tech-inclined crowd.

Exactly. The audience is none of us. It's non-techies who will eat this up.
My question is, how is Apple going to monetize this beyond more iPhones/iPads sold. Could the much delayed Mac Mini be morphed into a smaller puck sized box for home automation?
 
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