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I just find it funny to imagine that there's an age cut-off range where suddenly it's okay to be tracked

It shouldn't just be limited, it should be entirely removed, and regardless of age
 
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Done if this tracking is analytics separate from advertising. It helps app developers better understand how their apps are being used. My point is there is tracking and then there is Tracking. Rather than throw out all tracking (although that could be an option when it doesn't break the functionality of an app) automatically, what needs to happen is requiring clear statements about what tracking will happen when you open an app for the first time, have this information in a clear and easily reachable place in the app, and require ways to opt out (unless it breaks the app, in which case that is stated and the user can decide to keep our delete the app).

Note: I'm not an app developer but am interested in uses of tracking for scientific reasons.
 
Simple. You don't like to pay for apps or pay anything that actually covers the cost of the app so ads and tracking services have to be put into apps to make money because apps actually cost a lot of money to make and keep running. Even though most don't think they do, developers do deserve to make a living.

I have paid for apps and would gladly pay for more apps if I were 100% sure there was no tracking at all or at least not for intrusive advertising or data collection. Perhaps this should be a new category in the store.
 
Why was this allowed in the first place? Apple's touting the app store as a curated/safe place to get your apps and the reason why it should be the only place to get your apps. It also uses this as the defense for the 30% cut they take.

I think more people think the app store is curated than it really is. I read this and think "Apple already sold me on privacy, why are these apps already in the store and on my kids devices?"

And when Apple does something along that line, you all turn around and accuse Apple of monopolistic practices and playing dirty.

Make up your minds.
 
Why not in all apps? Adults aren’t entitled to privacy? Apple says they sell privacy focused devices
 
If my data is being sold for profit, am I not entitled to a portion of that profit?

Stop tracking or start sharing the profit
 
Why was this allowed in the first place? Apple's touting the app store as a curated/safe place to get your apps and the reason why it should be the only place to get your apps. It also uses this as the defense for the 30% cut they take.

I think more people think the app store is curated than it really is. I read this and think "Apple already sold me on privacy, why are these apps already in the store and on my kids devices?"
Capitalize on fear.
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If my data is being sold for profit, am I not entitled to a portion of that profit?

Stop tracking or start sharing the profit
Buy their stock lol
 
Apple should implement a tracking API... no, no, stick with me...

Any personal information should be accessed by an app via an API. Accessing the API should present the user with a warning about what is being tracked and why, with an opportunity to decline.

It’s no different to the warnings we receive when an app attempts to access our photos or contact information.

I would pretty much decline every personal information request and uninstall the app.
 
It is funny. I don't trust Google (don't use their apps or Android any more), I don't trust Amazon (sure, the prices are great and can be convenient but I won't touch their services), and I def. do not trust Facebook. All three have gotten into trouble multiple times for privacy issues. Yet somehow I somewhat trust Microsoft (even with the spyware built into Windows 10) and now I find myself questioning Apple. I guess it's just the lesser of evils. When Tim Cook says we all have a "fundamental right to privacy", I think he meant to add, "unless we play in Apple's ecosystem."
 
Why is 3rd party tracking allowed anyway?
Because people want free stuff, while in reality nothing is free.
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It is funny. I don't trust Google (don't use their apps or Android any more), I don't trust Amazon (sure, the prices are great and can be convenient but I won't touch their services), and I def. do not trust Facebook. All three have gotten into trouble multiple times for privacy issues. Yet somehow I somewhat trust Microsoft (even with the spyware built into Windows 10) and now I find myself questioning Apple. I guess it's just the lesser of evils. When Tim Cook says we all have a "fundamental right to privacy", I think he meant to add, "unless we play in Apple's ecosystem."
I’d trust Apple more than Microsoft at consumer level. I would only trust Microsoft in the context of their business licenses. But for their free consumer stuff? Nah, the new guy doesn’t seem to be that nice of a guy.
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If my data is being sold for profit, am I not entitled to a portion of that profit?

Stop tracking or start sharing the profit
Or start paying for software instead of demanding everything for free. At least Apple does its best to limit the metadata a developer can siphon off iPhone. On the Android side, a developer can get practically everything on your phone without much hassle.

There are useful tracking from developer perspective. It is useful to know what kind of people use your software so you can tailor your future updates better. Ie. adding a language support after seeing your software being used a lot in certain countries. Or what kind of devices that use your app so you can decide if you still need to support some old devices or not. Not everything is malicious.
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Apple can do this anytime. Why wait for an update?
Because it can probably break many apps and then the lawsuits from ad agencies and developers?
 
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This is always positive, but there could be side effects as well. I agree it SHOULD be for everyone, not just Kids apps..

Makes them stand out more.
 
Because people want free stuff, while in reality nothing is free.
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I’d trust Apple more than Microsoft at consumer level. I would only trust Microsoft in the context of their business licenses. But for their free consumer stuff? Nah, the new guy doesn’t seem to be that nice of a guy.
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Or start paying for software instead of demanding everything for free. At least Apple does its best to limit the metadata a developer can siphon off iPhone. On the Android side, a developer can get practically everything on your phone without much hassle.

There are useful tracking from developer perspective. It is useful to know what kind of people use your software so you can tailor your future updates better. Ie. adding a language support after seeing your software being used a lot in certain countries. Or what kind of devices that use your app so you can decide if you still need to support some old devices or not. Not everything is malicious.
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Because it can probably break many apps and then the lawsuits from ad agencies and developers?
Never said it was malicious or that I demand everything for free. But ok
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Capitalize on fear.
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Buy their stock lol
Pay for my data lol
 
Never said it was malicious or that I demand everything for free. But ok
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Pay for my data lol
It's gotta be worth paying for lol.

Joking aside, I'm in the same camp.
Even in fractions of dollars lol.
 
They should make age rated apps also immune from IAP without parental involvement. I still can’t shake the Finding Nemo app activity ever happening.
 
If my data is being sold for profit, am I not entitled to a portion of that profit? Stop tracking or start sharing the profit

it is not ”if” - your data has been sold from the beginning you bought your first iphone. apple didnt forbid it until on last year when they added a guideline for devs ”dont sell” - and if you get caught, you maybe banned from appstore ... but apple doesnt control it. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-08/is-apple-really-your-privacy-hero

Or start paying for software instead of demanding everything for free.

how about ”start doing better apps that people are willing to pay for”. people buy apps that are good and maintained. we dont need 1 000 000 differend (=mostly same kind) apps in appstore.

i, personally, only use paid apps - same in android. i have few free apps but only because there are no paid version of the app.
 
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Maybe someone suitable program VeePN, works well, quickly and in different languages
 
it is not ”if” - your data has been sold from the beginning you bought your first iphone. apple didnt forbid it until on last year when they added a guideline for devs ”dont sell” - and if you get caught, you maybe banned from appstore ... but apple doesnt control it. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-08/is-apple-really-your-privacy-hero



how about ”start doing better apps that people are willing to pay for”. people buy apps that are good and maintained. we dont need 1 000 000 differend (=mostly same kind) apps in appstore.

i, personally, only use paid apps - same in android. i have few free apps but only because there are no paid version of the app.
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