Apple to Manufacture 'Pro' iPhone Models in India for the First Time

[chineseguy38]

Ok? I really don't think anyone cares what happens to China except the Chinese and maybe Russia and North Korea. Even Apple has made it clear they are willing to sacrifice enormous profits in that market by not allowing the CCP to have access to their AI backend like every other company operating there is forced to do.

You'll be surprised. I personally heard someone saying she would only get the iPhone is made from China not India in Australia.

 

[chineseguy38]

Can you please explain how so?
I’m pretty sure that Indians can assemble iPhones as well as Chinese.

And India is not the main current enemy of the West…unlike China.

Oh well... I've heard people saying at phone shop not getting iPhone from India. She was looking for an iPhone 15 made in China.

 

[shanejketterman]

The faster they move away from China the better.

I agree. A little sniffle in china and they shut down….also, just not a good place to do business. How about do business here in the US!!

 

[lartola]

America simply doesn’t have the infrastructure to do that.

Also, why would any company have an allegiance to a mere nation state? That doesn’t come into play in capitalism.

Not only that, wages are much much higher in the US than in a (formerly) communist country such as China where everything is subsidized by the government. Because of that, moving iphone production to the US would increase production costs, and therefore iphone prices, dramatically.

 

[Ramchi]

aren't the indian factories run by foxconn and pegatron? which are chinese companies.
Seems like only the labour component is being offloaded; the profit is still going to the chinese.

This is just the stat of the entire process of mitigating single supply chain market. The area they are having the factory is surrounded by Korean and European manufacturing giants (Saint Gobin, Hyundai, Daimler, Renault.- Nissan, Citroen to name a few). Unlike China where Government can come over and setup the ancillary units supporting the manufacturing, in India, there are true third party suppliers competing with each other through the procurement division that comply with the prescribed standards. Hence things will be different in India but hopefully they match the quality and quantity that China has been producing which is very very competitive. Very difficult to match China but on the long run, India can close the gap of total reliance on one supplying entity. It is kind of market driven approach in India.

 

[frownface]

This is just the stat of the entire process of mitigating single supply chain market. The area they are having the factory is surrounded by Korean and European manufacturing giants (Saint Gobin, Hyundai, Daimler, Renault.- Nissan, Citroen to name a few). Unlike China where Government can come over and setup the ancillary units supporting the manufacturing, in India, there are true third party suppliers competing with each other through the procurement division that comply with the prescribed standards. Hence things will be different in India but hopefully they match the quality and quantity that China has been producing which is very very competitive. Very difficult to match China but on the long run, India can close the gap of total reliance on one supplying entity. It is kind of market driven approach in India.

But my point is the new factories in india are owned by chinese companies; which in turn are partially controlled by the chinese govt. Unless india decide to nationalise those factories (which would have much wider implications than just iphones being delayed) then i don't see where risk has been mitigated; unless the concern is for geographic risk (e.g. being hit by an earthquake)

But if the point of this exercise was to mitigate, say political risk. Like if the CCP decided to put an embargo on the manufacture of iphones; then those chinese factories located in india are probably going to get affected all the same.

 

[Qubelek]

again scratched phones out of the box like happened with 15 series for some ppl?

 

[iMac'd]

Apple is set to expand its manufacturing footprint in India by producing high-end iPhone "Pro" models in the country for the first time, according to a new report from MoneyControl.

Apple started iPhone production in India in 2017 with the original iPhone SE. Since then, it has progressively increased its manufacturing activities in the country, assembling models such as the iPhone 13 and iPhone 14. The production of these models in India, however, began several months after their global launch. This changed with the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, which were manufactured and available in India from day one of their global release.

Now, the company apparently plans to produce the iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max in the country later this year. The production of the iPhone 16 Pro models will be managed by Apple's long-standing partner, Foxconn, at its Sriperumbudur facility in Tamil Nadu. The facility will soon begin the New Product Introduction (NPI) process, with mass production slated to begin once the devices launch.

The move is part of Apple's broader strategy to diversify its supply chain away from China and enhance its manufacturing capabilities in India. The company reportedly aims to manufacture a quarter of all its iPhones in India over the next few years, up from the current 14%. The Indian government has been actively encouraging such investments, offering incentives to attract major manufacturers. Apple is investing heavily in production to meet the anticipated high demand for the iPhone 16 lineup, planning to produce 90 million units in 2024, a 10% increase from last year's iPhone 15 models.

Last week, it was reported that Apple is also eyeing plans to begin manufacturing the iPad in India for the first time. Likewise, the company is rumored to have plans to start manufacturing AirPods in India starting later this year.

Article Link: Apple to Manufacture 'Pro' iPhone Models in India for the First Time

What does "manufacture" or "production" mean? "Assemble" was clear enough.

 

[Ramchi]

But my point is the new factories in india are owned by chinese companies; which in turn are partially controlled by the chinese govt. Unless india decide to nationalise those factories (which would have much wider implications than just iphones being delayed) then i don't see where risk has been mitigated; unless the concern is for geographic risk (e.g. being hit by an earthquake)

But if the point of this exercise was to mitigate, say political risk. Like if the CCP decided to put an embargo on the manufacture of iphones; then those chinese factories located in india are probably going to get affected all the same.

I see your point. Foxconn India could be a separate entity not directly controlled by the Foxconn China, though they both operate closer to each other but in their own ways. Foxconn India probably not taking any orders from Foxconn China instead they may be taking orders from Apple. This is my guess. Foxconn probably use their knowledge in setting up the factory and provide necessary support in terms of machineries, training, services (fixing any machines). This is private organization and not listed one hence their revenues probably start and ends up within the country unlike Group Companies.

 

[FineWoven]

You'll be surprised. I personally heard someone saying she would only get the iPhone is made from China not India in Australia.

And by chance was she Chinese...? As an American I too have pride in my country and would like to support our domestic work force by purchasing more goods made on our soil. But there are many factors at play beyond my control that prevent me from doing that.

The world doesn't use China as a manufacturing center because they've somehow perfected assembly plant logistics or have it in their collective character as a people to pride themselves on attention to detail and high level of quality assurance (such as Germany or even the US at one point in time). We have so many things made in China because there's a billion people being exploited by an authoritarian regime and as a result the labor is cheap.

 

[NT1440]

And by chance was she Chinese...? As an American I too have pride in my country and would like to support our domestic work force by purchasing more goods made on our soil. But there are many factors at play beyond my control that prevent me from doing that.

The world doesn't use China as a manufacturing center because they've somehow perfected assembly plant logistics or have it in their collective character as a people to pride themselves on attention to detail and high level of quality assurance (such as Germany or even the US at one point in time). We have so many things made in China because there's a billion people being exploited by an authoritarian regime and as a result the labor is cheap.

India, Indonesia, Vietnam, and Bangladesh are racing to replace China as the manufacturing shop of the world BECAUSE the Chinese workers are finally starting to assert their labor power. Capital doesn’t like that, so they’re actively trying to move on.

The Capital mouthpieces (Forbes, Financial Times, etc) have been plainly laying that out for the better part of a decade now.

Didn’t expect to quickly find an article hitting most of those countries, let alone Apple being the focus, but here we are:

Apple CEO Tim Cook says, ‘We’re investing’ in Indonesia, fresh off his pledge to spend more on Vietnam suppliers, continuing his Southeast Asia charm offensive

“The investment ability in Indonesia is endless,” Cook said, following a Wednesday meeting with President Joko Widodo.

fortune.com

 

[chineseguy38]

And by chance was she Chinese...? As an American I too have pride in my country and would like to support our domestic work force by purchasing more goods made on our soil. But there are many factors at play beyond my control that prevent me from doing that.

The world doesn't use China as a manufacturing center because they've somehow perfected assembly plant logistics or have it in their collective character as a people to pride themselves on attention to detail and high level of quality assurance (such as Germany or even the US at one point in time). We have so many things made in China because there's a billion people being exploited by an authoritarian regime and as a result the labor is cheap.

No. She's an Aussie.