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Not miniLED but microLED… I must admit I’m not up on the latest display technologies. But it seems to me you must have some consumer-relevant feature in mind, like a screen with deeper blacks and higher local brightness. Are we really going to be able to tell the difference between two-layer OLED and these ever-better display technologies? I can just about see the difference between IPS and OLED but I have some doubts about how much these things are going to differentiate in future.
MicroLED can go much brighter than OLED, at relatively lower energy consumption, and it’s more durable, not prone to burn-in like OLED is.
 
It is rare to have a customer moving back through the supply chain to produce their own displays, but I expect it is a good move if they want to control the quality of the process. Display supplier moving forward in the supply chain, integrating their displays in other products is more common.
 
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Apple continues to vertically integrate key technologies.

Pros: this helps differentiate the iPhone further from its competitors and is great for efficiency/profitability

Cons: the more vertically integrated you get, the more susceptible you become to unforeseen market and technology disruptions
 
Given the $billions Samsung and the like have invested into microLED manufacturing research, good luck with that Apple.

Would love to see it happen (and it likely will happen) but can't see it for at least 4-5 years.
Apple has the lion's share of microLED patents, world wide. Their yearly R&D is over $32 billion now and well north of $20 billion annually for more than a decade.
 
Apple has the lion's share of microLED patents, world wide. Their yearly R&D is over $32 billion now and well north of $20 billion annually for more than a decade.
That’s still no guarantee that the tech will work out, though I hope it will.
 
OLED already has infinite contrast ratio, so that can’t be increased. And the iPhone 14 Pro has a maximum brightness of 2000 nits, which is plenty for me. Burn in for phones tends to be rare and/or minor. I’m interested in advances in display technology, but OLED seems optimal in just about every way, except for burn in.
I’m most interested in microLED for laptops and desktop monitors, where burn-in is the most likely to happen.
Less power consumption is good, but not exactly an exciting feature in a display, though the small bump in battery life will be beneficial.
 
I guess that means that the Apple Watch Ultra sells the least, out of Apple's products with a screen.

(And which is of a small enough size to not be affected by what will presumably be a low yield with a relatively high amount of a defects).
 
Apple should stop marketing the Ultra watch as a premium product to the regular 41/45mm watches. It’s impractically huge for most users. There’s a good chunk of potential customers that would pay the premium, were it not for the prohibitively large form factor.

They would have better results with putting premium features like MicroLED on the Stainless models.
 
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Every article about microLED has people confuse it with miniLED. MacRumors should really put a disclaimer at the beginning of these articles.

I can't recall the numbers anymore, but afaik Samsung slaps a hefty profit margin on the display components it makes for Apple, as a strategy to force Apple to increase the sales price to compensate. That's the danger with limited vendor options.

I'm also pretty sure I read somewhere that the display is the most expensive component by a wide margin.
 
How's that 5G modem coming along, Apple?

It seems Apple is always years away from finally producing some components in-house, but then never does.
There’s not been many rumours of Apple actually producing anything in house. They design custom components in-house and are expanding the amount they do in-house each year. Power management, audio controllor, wif/BT antenna, taptic engine and of course apple silicon.
 
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OLED already has infinite contrast ratio, so that can’t be increased.

Technically „infinite“, just because the black is pure black. The brightness is still way behind LCD/LED, though.

And the iPhone 14 Pro has a maximum brightness of 2000 nits, which is plenty for me.

Only for a very short time. Screen brightness for use outdoors for longer amounts of time is nowhere near where it would ideally be yet.

OLED seems optimal in just about every way, except for burn in.

And except for max brightness as well as for power consumption.

Less power consumption is good, but not exactly an exciting feature

Less power consumption, in today’s (and even more so tomorrow’s) world is an essential feature.

though the small bump in battery life will be beneficial.

How do you know how small the bump will be?
 
I thought OLED was the best? now back to mini LED??
As someone already pointed out, this is microLED, not Mini LED.

Mini LED and OLED both have advantages and disadvantages, so neither one is necessarily the best. It’s a lot of personal preference. microLED basically combines the advantages of both and will be the best option hands down.
 
At some point Apple will make its own customers, solving the issue of complaints and not following basic instructions.
They will very soon make there own employees aka robots 🤖 that will not complain about working in the office snd having to commute to work.
 
How's that 5G modem coming along, Apple?

It seems Apple is always years away from finally producing some components in-house, but then never does
Apple’s new custom 5G modem will be in 2024 iPhone SE, so we will see how that goes, potentially more delays. I wish Apple had invested in there own cell phone network, they would have been able to control the quality much better 📱 🛰️
 
Any ideas about just how much less power mini-OLED draws? Enough to squeeze out an extra 2-3 hours of battery life in a phone form factor? 😳
 
This will be interesting. Apple currently designs its own OLED displays which are then manufactured by Samsung to Apple specifications. They are likely not entirely happy with that arrangement and feel they can eventually shorten the design to manufacture process, and save money in the process.
 
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