Ok, that destroy my guessing with a good argument; hard to beat.
Keeps me left with the mechanical stability only
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Apple to Provide Adapter for Smaller iPhone Dock Connector
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Ok, that destroy my guessing with a good argument; hard to beat.
Keeps me left with the mechanical stability only
seriously people?
To everyone posting these hilarious rants and reactions to rumors, as if Apple has even released a product:
You know what? Don't ever buy a new Apple product then, and you won't have to worry about dock connectors changing and headphone jacks moving. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new iPhone.
And you know what else? You should have considered that one day Apple might release an iPhone with a different form factor or new dock connector, before handing over enormous amounts of money for a sound dock. Blame yourself for choosing that $1000 sound dock that has an ugly upgrade path, or doesn't have an upgrade path at all.
To everyone posting these hilarious rants and reactions to rumors, as if Apple has even released a product:
You know what? Don't ever buy a new Apple product then, and you won't have to worry about dock connectors changing and headphone jacks moving. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new iPhone.
And you know what else? You should have considered that one day Apple might release an iPhone with a different form factor or new dock connector, before handing over enormous amounts of money for a sound dock. Blame yourself for choosing that $1000 sound dock that has an ugly upgrade path, or doesn't have an upgrade path at all.
Totally agree with you and it's not in your head, certainly not in the UK where the cables are £15 (around $23)
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MA591G/B?
and dock conectors £26 (around $40)
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC596ZM/B?fnode=45
I need to find the official ones for $10
What if the person already spent his $300 of spending money on that speaker?
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My dad bought an iPod speaker system in 2002 or so, and it's been supported for 10 years. Of course, it has audio input in the form of a 1/8" jack, but that's not as good as an iPod dock.
So if there weren't any adaptors, nobody in our family would buy the new iPhone.
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Why does it need the audio jack in there? Isn't a better audio source in one of the 19-pins of the "new" dock connector?
Also, can we start calling it the "docktor19" and "docktor30"?
So that could mean:
1. No more audio through the dock connector. If that is the case, I am selling my AAPL for now.
2. Digital audio through the dock connector. That would be awesome.
3. Analog audio through the dock connector. That would just not make sense for this adapter, but oh well.
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It's not a dream. It's the most likely outcome. Do a search for "displayport pinouts". The minidisplayport which became TBolt is 20 pins.
Since Apple is quite dedicated to removing everything but TBolt and USB3 it would make sense for them to use a "Micro Thunderbolt" cable for this device and simply remove the entire proprietary docking connector from the equation. The 20th pin could be removed either by removing a channel used for negotiating DP vs Lightpeak traffic or by consolidating a ground.
Why are these 'reports' still going on when they are based on rumour? Because NO ONE has seen the iPhone 5, and those that have sure aren't going to talk about it.
This is still a believe it when I see it, however, I CAN VERY easily see Apple charging the exact same 600 pounds for a 32GB version that will come in a tiny box, with a power adapter and charging lead, cheap headphones, and a leaflet, oh and useless stickers, it will then no doubt happily charge me 15 or 20 pounds for an adapter ON TOP of the 600. Because they are utterly greedy like that.
Anyway, the next iPhone is the last one for a long time for me, so long as one way or another I can replace the battery, I'm not changing it for a long time, for the money they charge it should last as long as a 600 pounds watch IMO.
Apple also have to by law provide as standard a USB cable in Europe for charging, so even if it was thunderbolt capable, you will have to buy the cable separately, again more money for Apple.
This is still a believe it when I see it, however, I CAN VERY easily see Apple charging the exact same 600 pounds for a 32GB version that will come in a tiny box, with a power adapter and charging lead, cheap headphones, and a leaflet, oh and useless stickers, it will then no doubt happily charge me 15 or 20 pounds for an adapter ON TOP of the 600. Because they are utterly greedy like that.
Anyway, the next iPhone is the last one for a long time for me, so long as one way or another I can replace the battery, I'm not changing it for a long time, for the money they charge it should last as long as a 600 pounds watch IMO.
Apple also have to by law provide as standard a USB cable in Europe for charging, so even if it was thunderbolt capable, you will have to buy the cable separately, again more money for Apple.
Generally agree, but I find the MagSafe adapter very elegant. Granted, the overall change there is small. This will be much more dramatic.
If you have only $300 of spending money for the month, you shouldn't blow it all on a set of speakers. It's called living within your means.
I see where your coming from. Who knows maybe the new connector will be magnetic.
A paper 'confirms' a change on the dock connector which they likely can't prove but they don't want to be the only ones not talking about it, and that proves that Apple is making a smaller iPad. That math doesn't work out for me
Anywhere you want. But you are wasting your time. Apple does what it wNts regardless of public opinion or petitions about rumors. Particularly at this point when the design is locked to start production, if it hasn't already started
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Yeah, by revamping their products. Probably already have the specs so they can have the new ones out the week after the announcement
My dad bought an iPod speaker system in 2002 or so, and it's been supported for 10 years. Of course, it has audio input in the form of a 1/8" jack, but that's not as good as an iPod dock.
So if there weren't any adaptors, nobody in our family would buy the new iPhone. There, we don't want it, so we won't buy it
10 years is a long life for an electronic thing. That's a pretty good run in itself. At some point you have to let these things go, accept that if you want to upgrade one thing you'll need to upgrade the other, or make use of a converter. That's just the way it is, right?
Why would you think that anything essential goes away? Virtually no one needs FireWire on the Dock Connector. Other than audio and video, USB3.0 would be nice for the future. That is definitely possible with 19 pins. 10 years ago, FireWire seemed to have a future but then was pushed aside in favor or USB2.0/3.0 and now Thunderbolt. I don't see where Thunderbold would make sense, so, my bet is on USB3.0 since 5GBit/sec is by far fast enough for a phone for the upcoming years. 1GB of data in 8sec transfer in asyncronous mode one direction is probably faster that the rest of the technology for another couple of years. USB3.0 also makes sense to keep the current chargers using USB out. It also keeps the docks with adapter happy because they still can use sound output.
And about the price and style of adapters: Just look what kind of ugly cases people run around with. It almost hurts to see them. I'm a purist and the only thought on my mind is: Do I want a bumber or not? Right now, the answer is still "No." even though I just got a refurb 4S today (warranty replacement for my 4 32GB CDMA). The old one held up pretty well for 1.5 years.
Because low voltage is harder to transfer than high voltage?
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Then that person has poor financial skills.
Thunderbolt?
That would alienate a lot of PCs, but there has got to be some progress toward faster loading of content onto these devices. It takes forever and a day to get a 64GB device loaded and ready to use.
Here's to hoping that the next iPhone will have USB 3.0 / Thunderbolt support and the internal I/O upgrade to match.
It's only costly if you foolishly think that the Apple Store is the only source for them. ANY reseller can sell them for about half the cost. Then there's Amazon and a raft of other sources as well. Also, why shouldn't it be sold separately? Not everyone went and bought a ton of silly accessories
Then again, how fast is the 64GB internally? You can get USB3.0. Read/sec is what? 150MB/Sec max? that is 1.2GBit/sec or 1/4 of USB3.0. Even if you have a fast SSD, the speed is not much more than twice that and still half of what USB3.0 can do. Since you don't daisy chain them, it is absolutely sufficient (Except you have more than 4 devices at once on one port up/downloading to the equivalent number of of SSD/HDD).