Hopefully all the bugs are fixed this time.
I successfully rolled back to the old architecture via a profile Apple support sent some customers (found it on Reddit). It was a bit of a pain since it requires all iOS devices (even ppl you had invited and also upgrade the architecture) to reset their home app by applying a profile. HomePods also need to be reset but no need for a profile. My ATV didn’t require resetting, just turned off HomeKit in the settings and then back on.Yes, it’s insane how they’re handling it.
It’s crazy they broke HomeKit, crazy they haven’t fixed it in the betas before the public release, crazy they’re taking so much time to fix it instead of rolling it back with a minor point update…
Once upon a time they cared enough to issue a public apology and fire Scott Forstall because maps was bad. Now it’s just another broken feature to add to a long list, such as notifications, Home Screen, autocorrect, Siri, etc…
I thought this was to centre Homekit around Matter.The same issue that befell Apple when Europe ruled on the USB C Charger will happen again when europe and other countries rule that all domestic devices should be able to operate under common prootcols, negating waste while boltering product developent and efficiency - best Apple plan for that, rather than trying to hobble along with this dead end closed ecosystem.
I'm not pushing back. I'm honestly interested in your opinion. I'm a senior dev with 25 years of experience. I don't often get asked to interview candidates, but when I do, here's what I do.
I tell the candidate that we're going to pretend we've been hired to write the backend for an online poker site. His immediate task is to write a method for evaluating 5 card poker hands with the goal of being able to compare any two hands and determine a winner, loser or tie.
I leave the language as the candidate's choice. I don't sit back and just stare at him, it becomes a conversation about how to tackle what is a reasonably trivial and relatively familiar task for people, but one which almost nobody considers how to translate into code (as it happens, I did do this exercise for fun once, so I know at least two solutions).
It also has the benefit of being entirely divorced from the job the candidate is applying for, so he doesn't feel like he's being asked to work for free.
Only once did this fall completely flat because the candidate did not know anything about poker, so I had to do something else. But for the most part, I feel like this has resulted in my making pretty quality decisions - that is, they either resulted in a good hire, or if not a hire then it agreed with other evaluations I heard about later.
What do you think?
Alexa has been automating my stuff for 5 or 6 years. Perfect for everything since day 1. I tried HomeKit two years ago, it was impossibly obtuse so I just quit after an hour, there was no point since everything was already perfect with Alexa. Then last year, in a moment of boredom I tried again, managed to get at least my Hue light bulbs working. A few months later Apple updated… something… somewhere… ??? and everything disappeared. I tried adding stuff back… nothing.I have a bunch of smart devices and Siri and Homekit are totally useless. Google Home just works. HomeKit is the most bewildering piece of software I've ever encountered. It's very pretty to look at but impossible to configure. I love Apple products and would love to use HomeKit but it is just so crappy I gave up after a few hours of messing with it.
Google Home, sadly, is so much better than HomeKit. Now I am just waiting for HomeKit to be able to detect my smart devices and let me manage them as effortlessly as Google Home.
Does not work. Just went through all your steps multiple times and it only resets HomeKit doesn't remove the new architecture...I successfully rolled back to the old architecture via a profile Apple support sent some customers (found it on Reddit). It was a bit of a pain since it requires all iOS devices (even ppl you had invited and also upgrade the architecture) to reset their home app by applying a profile. HomePods also need to be reset but no need for a profile. My ATV didn’t require resetting, just turned off HomeKit in the settings and then back on.
All in all it went like this: have every iOS device that had the new architecture apply the profile and then go into settings, home, reset. Reboot the device and make sure it reverted to the old architecture by using an iPad and checking if “use as Home hub” shows up in the settings. If so then you’re good to proceed.
Reset HomePods to factory settings.
Add them back to the home app,
Add your accessories.
Set up your scenes, automations and so on.
Reboot your ATV and then toggle on/off HomeKit in the settings.
Open Home in your Mac computers and ensure the new home is active (sometimes a duplicate could be shown, delete any duplicates).
The last two steps could take a few tries.
Fingers crossed and things are back to normal 😂
Now this is far from user-friendly and no end user should have to go through this.
Siri doesn't work on my OG HomePods anymore. Always fails the first command, and then works the second time. So that's awesome.I'm one of the lucky ones, I upgraded the day it came out and have zero issues, but then again I've never had any issues with HomeKit. 3 HomePods, about 20 lights, 1 smart lock, couple cameras, 4 ATVs. Everything responds so much faster
Check out the link I just posted you might wanna go nuclear with that firstI took the nuclear approach yesterday and removed and re setup my home yesterday and it didn't fix anything. Currently cannot setup HomePods (continuously configuring) and my Apple Watch home app says "no home connected" so I can't use Siri on my watch to control anything). I really hope this gets fixed soon as I can't leave my HomePods plugged in as Siri commands related to Home Devices such as lights etc. fail when handled by the HomePod.
Tried this today and it didn't fix anything. All my HomeKit devices say "no response" just like they did before.. Basically a ton of work to set everything back up after the reset with the same outcome.. What is needed is either the new architecture needs to be removed completely (Apple won't allow down grading) or they need to fix the new architecture.. I never had any issues on the old HomeKit, all this started after the "upgrade"
Maybe this will help someone. This is the official Apple secret profile so you can completely erase and reset your home kit. Some people report it helps.
That sucks. Maybe just switch to Google, i understand its much better?Tried this today and it didn't fix anything. All my HomeKit devices say "no response" just like they did before.. Basically a ton of work to set everything back up after the reset with the same outcome.. What is needed is either the new architecture needs to be removed completely (Apple won't allow down grading) or they need to fix the new architecture.. I never had any issues on the old HomeKit, all this started after the "upgrade"
I'll give Apple a chance to correct the software.. Hopefully it will be included in 16.3.1 or 16.4. If they can't fix it, at the minimum they should allow us to revert back to the old architecture. I'm pretty confident they don't want HomeKit to be tossed by customers and see them use google or another competitors software solututionsThat sucks. Maybe just switch to Google, i understand its much better?
How many of those people have work ethic or finish what they start? It seems like Apple might consider hiring some adults who can finish what the distracted children start. Wouldn’t it be funny if iPhones were the very distraction that is causing this paradox?164,000 employees not enough you say.
I haven’t had these issues. The only one I did have was having to ask Siri twice problem on the HomePods that was fixed in the last HomePod update. My Hue lights, door locks, Caseta switches etc have all worked fine. It’s frustrating how variable the experience is for many people.I’m wondering how long after the update gets re-released that it’s pulled again. It obviously wasn’t tested before being released in 16.2, so I’m not sure why people are expecting it to be tested for 16.4.
It also must do more than just send all traffic through the Home hubs or it wouldn’t be so unstable and work worse than the old update.
Home was fairly reliable since I set mine up years ago, but since updating to the new Home architecture in 16.2:
- At least one HomePod or device has had issues after a firmware update. For the update to 16.3.1, a HomePod mini got stuck as ”Not Responding” in Home despite being able to handle personal requests and play music. Rebooting it didn’t help, I had to reboot all my home hubs and my iPhone to fix that.
- HKSV recording simply doesn’t work. I’ve gotten it to work temporarily by rebooting all my home hubs but that doesn’t last long so I’ve just given up trying and now use Blink and Ring camera which “just work”.
- I lost adaptive lighting on my Hue lights, but eventually managed to get them back by removing all hue devices and re-adding them. So far they’ve not broke again.
- My Wemo switch frequently duplicates itself when my network goes down such as when rebooting my router or if my Internet goes down. I have to remove and re-add it to fix that.
I no longer recommend Home since it is completely unreliable now and it’s obvious that Apple doesn’t care enough about it to even bother testing it before pushing out changes to it.