see, we all have more choices, once you think outside the ITMS, neflix, and tv recording are all cheaper than ITMS. do it now!
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Apple to Stop Selling NBC Television Shows
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see, we all have more choices, once you think outside the ITMS, neflix, and tv recording are all cheaper than ITMS. do it now!
I watch on Demand HD films and TV regularly via Comcast. Sometimes I watch CBS's CSI. It is FREE on HD On demand and there is a one minute commercial. Maybe two at the most. So the CBS shows are free.
The NBC shows on demand HD are .99. I can afford it but I NEVER watch them. What a crock. They could add their one or two adverts and keep it free.
The NBC shows on demand HD are .99. I can afford it but I NEVER watch them. What a crock. They could add their one or two adverts and keep it free.
And to write to the Sci Fi channel about Battlstar Galactica et al, use feedback@ here:
http://www.scifi.com/help/feedback/
Remember, sounding intelligent will make an impression. Insults and threats will not. Explain that you WOULD spend money on their shows via iTunes, and that you won't by other means.
see, we all have more choices, once you think outside the ITMS, neflix, and tv recording are all cheaper than ITMS. do it now!
iTMS is instant gratification. Its worth the price to most people. NBC wants to offer a competing service and only time will tell if they are successful.
$5 for a 20-25 minute show? $5 for a low quality DRM restricted show. How is that even remotely possible? In context to other media, $5 for 20 minutes of entertainment is absurd. A two HOUR movie costs $9.00 here in Nebraska at the theater. If NBC's pricing was used for a movie, it would cost $30 for one ticket.
TV shows on DVD don't cost more than $30-$40--and that is for all 20+ episodes in a season. That cost is around $.50-.75 per episode, included on a disk, in a DVD case. That is full quality DVD. And NBC wants $5 per episode for a download.
I'm having a hard time believing this is true.
TV shows on DVD don't cost more than $30-$40--and that is for all 20+ episodes in a season. That cost is around $.50-.75 per episode, included on a disk, in a DVD case. That is full quality DVD. And NBC wants $5 per episode for a download.
I'm having a hard time believing this is true.
agree. we shall see.
yes, because it IS NOT true
apple tried to paint NBC as greedy so they say end users' price will be $4.99. of course, apple didn't bother to say that NBC might just want a bigger revenue sharing, rather than charging end-users more. i.e. NBC want more money from apple, not end users, while apple would just transfer this to end-users, now, who is greedy? can you really tell?
Just because you raise the price doesn't mean that they make more money, since they just over doubled their price they still need about half the sales they did before to be making the same amount of money, so if they lost more than half of their sales then they'd be loosing money.
NBC wants to double the whole sale price... Apple should eat that cost all by themselves?
Well, we can certainly guess--if Apple isn't lying that iTMS profits are slim. And misleading the public about financial details like that would have legal consequences.
I'm sure there IS posturing going on here (wouldn't double be $3.98?) but I doubt that Apple could have accommodated NBC's doubling without raising the price charged to me. EDIT: I just re-read: "more than double." That's where the 4.99 comes from, I see.
Apple has little incentive to gouge consumers for content: they are selling a whole system, and content is not the profitable segment. iPods and Macs are. NBC, on the other hand, has every incentive to gouge consumers. Although they may be deluding themselves about people's willingness to BE gouged.
see, we all have more choices, once you think outside the ITMS, neflix, and tv recording are all cheaper than ITMS. do it now!
Not really. You generally have to pay upwards of $50/mo for cable, and $14.99/ mo or so for netflix. With ITMS, if you're downloading say 1 show a week, thats only about $8/mo or so. the only way your scenario is true, is if either your buying huge amounts off of ITMS or, your recording off of Rabit ears, but then your really only getting network tv. Besides which, you already had those choices before hand anyway. Now you actually have less choices.
$1.99 to $4.99 is NBC GREED. They should be painted as such.
They did. $4.99 bigger revenue cut.
And guess who buys the shows?
END USERS....
Good grief.
this makes me think that Universal is the greediest media conglomerate out there. Remember how it started with Universal complaining about the 99 cent per song price model of iTunes music store?
next, Universal decided that they're too good for iTunes and decided to not sell the DRM-free songs to iTunes.
now...Universal decides to double the pricing of TV shows effectively ending negotiations. All from the same company? It makes me want to download TV/movies/music from Universal at alternative sources.
next, Universal decided that they're too good for iTunes and decided to not sell the DRM-free songs to iTunes.
now...Universal decides to double the pricing of TV shows effectively ending negotiations. All from the same company? It makes me want to download TV/movies/music from Universal at alternative sources.
Meh.
There isn't much on TV I can't live without.
Other than sports, maybe NCIS and or Scrubs.
I've bought a few episodes of each that I missed on broadcast this past year, only because they were available and inexpensive.
$4.99 per episode? Sorry, the shows aren't that good.
There isn't much on TV I can't live without.
Other than sports, maybe NCIS and or Scrubs.
I've bought a few episodes of each that I missed on broadcast this past year, only because they were available and inexpensive.
$4.99 per episode? Sorry, the shows aren't that good.
NBC is f*ing insane. I don't see how they can justify double the price for a season of shows over the DVD box set.
And considering their line-up has sucked for the past 3 years, they have a lot of nerve. I stopped watching NBC when Will & Grace was done.
And considering their line-up has sucked for the past 3 years, they have a lot of nerve. I stopped watching NBC when Will & Grace was done.
Math is not my strong point...
We know Apple takes a cut of the shows they sell. I don't know what percentage, but lets assume it's a 50/50 split.
I'll round things up to make it easy.
NBC gets 1$
Apple get 1$
According to the press release, NBC wants double the wholesale price.
NBC 2$ + Apple 1$ = 3$
Even if NBC took all the money (which they don't) to most you could pay if you double it is 4$.
I'm against the tactics used by Universal (NBC) because they feel Apple is gaining too much popularity, however I would be very dumb if I thought Apple is not trying to take advantage on the situation.
In the end they are both "greedy" companies. IPhone ringtone service anyone ? Wireless N dirvers update for 1.99$
The outcome of all this, Apple loses profit and content (their most valuable asset) and NBC loses sales and a broad reach to the consumer. Everyone loses. Apple is clearly not happy with the loss of NBC Content, else they would've never done a press release. They want to make sure the public is with them. The only way is to make the guy the bad guy.
I'll miss my shows, I guess I'll have to get cable or wait for DVD's or stop watching tv altogether !
anyway ,taht was my 2 cents.
We know Apple takes a cut of the shows they sell. I don't know what percentage, but lets assume it's a 50/50 split.
I'll round things up to make it easy.
NBC gets 1$
Apple get 1$
According to the press release, NBC wants double the wholesale price.
NBC 2$ + Apple 1$ = 3$
Even if NBC took all the money (which they don't) to most you could pay if you double it is 4$.
I'm against the tactics used by Universal (NBC) because they feel Apple is gaining too much popularity, however I would be very dumb if I thought Apple is not trying to take advantage on the situation.
In the end they are both "greedy" companies. IPhone ringtone service anyone ? Wireless N dirvers update for 1.99$
The outcome of all this, Apple loses profit and content (their most valuable asset) and NBC loses sales and a broad reach to the consumer. Everyone loses. Apple is clearly not happy with the loss of NBC Content, else they would've never done a press release. They want to make sure the public is with them. The only way is to make the guy the bad guy.
I'll miss my shows, I guess I'll have to get cable or wait for DVD's or stop watching tv altogether !
anyway ,taht was my 2 cents.
MSNBC & DVD's
Microsoft sold their interest in MSNBC, they are no longer a partner.
One can use Handbrake to rip DVD's to iTunes and it works quite well. VideoHub also converts DivX etc. to iTunes (iPod & aTV) formats. $4.99 for a TV program is a non-starter, good luck to anyone who tries it.
Microsoft sold their interest in MSNBC, they are no longer a partner.
One can use Handbrake to rip DVD's to iTunes and it works quite well. VideoHub also converts DivX etc. to iTunes (iPod & aTV) formats. $4.99 for a TV program is a non-starter, good luck to anyone who tries it.