Apple to Use Intel Modems in AT&T iPhone 7, Qualcomm Modems for Verizon and China

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Multiple rumors have claimed that Intel will supply at least a portion of LTE and Wi-Fi modems for the iPhone 7 series, alongside existing supplier Qualcomm, and a new report offers a closer look at how the orders will be divided between the companies.

    Bloomberg reports that Intel modems will be reserved for AT&T iPhone 7 models, and some other versions of the smartphone sold in other countries, while Qualcomm is said to remain a supplier of modems for Verizon and all Chinese models. The wording suggests that Qualcomm may retain orders in some other regions as well.
    Qualcomm CEO Steve Mollenkopf previously hinted that the chipmaker would be losing modem orders from one of its major customers to one of its leading competitors, although it is reportedly still "retaining a major chunk" of Apple's business rather than being dropped as a supplier entirely.

    Taiwanese website DigiTimes recently reported that Intel would supply "up to 50 percent" of modems for the iPhone 7 series, while CLSA Securities analyst Srini Pajjuri told investors in March that Intel's share of orders would be a "significant portion," likely falling in range of 30 to 40 percent of production.

    Apple is rumored to use Intel's XMM 7360 LTE modem [PDF] with faster theoretical download speeds up to 450 Mbps and upload speeds up to 100 Mbps. Meanwhile, Qualcomm's X12 modem is a likely candidate for the iPhone 7, with theoretical download speeds up to 600 Mbps and upload speeds up to 150 Mbps.

    Both rumored Intel and Qualcomm modems would be capable of faster speeds than the MDM9635 chipset in the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, which provides theoretical download speeds up to 300 Mbps and upload speeds up to 50 Mbps. However, real-world speeds are often slower due to network limitations.

    Article Link: Apple to Use Intel Modems in AT&T iPhone 7, Qualcomm Modems for Verizon and China
  2. tigres macrumors 601


    Aug 31, 2007
    Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
    So, this article is leading me to believe ATT will be an inferior product as opposed to the Verizon version. Is this what we are to take from it?
  3. BryanElliott macrumors newbie


    Jan 9, 2014
    Los Santos
  4. Crosscreek macrumors 68030


    Nov 19, 2013
    So where does that leave unlocked phones......uter confusion?
  5. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    Why do you say that?
  6. Xgm541 macrumors 65816

    May 3, 2011
    Yes. And this will mean that people will use anecdotal evidence to "prove" that there's a big difference between the two. In reality, the performance difference will probably be negligible, especially given the fact that speed is mainly limited by the tower capacity than the modem.
  7. Goldfrapp macrumors 601


    Jul 31, 2005
  8. Xgm541 macrumors 65816

    May 3, 2011
    Probably due to this quote:

    "Sanford C. Bernstein have said that Qualcomm's modems remain ahead of Intel's offerings in performance when measured by how much data they can get from the network into the phone."
  9. emcdonald75 macrumors newbie


    Mar 10, 2016
    Hasn't Apple been through this debacle already after they used Samsung and TSMC chipsets in the iPhone 6S/6S Plus? I believe Apple likes the spectacle of a mobile tech review community going after each other about which chip set, now modem, is better than the other.
  10. AppleFan91 macrumors 65816


    Sep 11, 2012
    Indy, US
    Oh man... This will be Samsung or TSMC all over again in the forums
  11. nebosphere macrumors newbie

    Mar 2, 2011
    I don't mean to be obtuse... but this matters why?
  12. Thunderhawks Suspended

    Feb 17, 2009
    Everybody, just get your pillows ready to lay on the psychiatrist couches.
  13. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    What does a Wall Street sell-side firm know about technology?
  14. Dilster3k macrumors 6502a


    Jul 20, 2014
    This may be the most controversial iPhone ever, whereas the 2017 iPhone seems to be the most desired.
  15. sherifhanna macrumors newbie

    Apr 21, 2016
    Sorry but that is not entirely true. Even under completely identical conditions in a controlled environment, performance varies from modem to modem for various reasons. The difference can be up to 20-30%, again under completely identical network conditions (e.g. both modems assigned the same amount of resources from the network).

    You can read about some modem vs. modem tests here:
  16. vertsix macrumors 65816


    Aug 12, 2015
    I guess it'll be the Intel modem, just a different version.
  17. GFLPraxis macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    Except that since neither network gets anywhere near the theoretical maximum, this doesn't matter except for on paper.
  18. ElZeus macrumors regular

    May 26, 2008
    Thus ends the Verizon's run of having the best iPhone for multi-carrier/unlocked/ use and resale value.
  19. sherifhanna macrumors newbie

    Apr 21, 2016
    That is entirely false. There's a direct relationship between the technologies that enable the peak speeds and real world experience. Real world experience scales with the relative gains between the peak speeds.

    Add to that the difference in performance when implementing the exact same feature.
    --- Post Merged, Jun 10, 2016 ---
    Actually it would be the exact opposite of this.
  20. citysnaps macrumors 601

    Oct 10, 2011
    San Francisco
    It's only a debacle for the few forum keyboard warriors that know absolutely nothing about the underlying technology.
  21. macduke macrumors G3


    Jun 27, 2007
    Central U.S.
    Well, that would be the case normally with AT&T, lol. But yeah. Realistically? Probably can't tell a difference because no real world speeds come close. Perhaps if you plan to keep your phone for many years. But now? Nah.

    I'm pretty happy with Verizon right now. They upgraded me from the 6GB plan to the 12GB plan for only $16/mo, and gave me a free 12GB of bonus data per month. So I've got an insanely cheap 24GB data plan now, haha. Mentioning moving to T-Mobile apparently goes a long way!
  22. now i see it macrumors 68030

    Jan 2, 2002

    "However, real-world speeds are always a lot slower due to network limitations."
  23. Xgm541 macrumors 65816

    May 3, 2011
    <sarcasm>For some reason, using articles and tests from a qualcomm website saying that qualcomm modems are superior doesnt feel right</sarcasm>

    As far as I know, this "modem vs modem" testing is similar to drug company testing. They can test a product 10 times, where 1 out of those 10 times the competitor does worse, and they can publish only the one where the competitor did worse that one time and call it truth.
  24. bteters macrumors newbie

    Aug 14, 2013
    Read the article first please.
  25. Koalazub macrumors newbie

    Apr 1, 2013
    Uhhh no. Sorry mate? It needs to go. That piece of hardware has bugged me. From the beginning. And I have nothing but admiration(because and idea is every one, but. A completed project is everyone too!) but everyone needs to hell to rid he world of the 3.5mm jack.

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