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Says the person afraid of a virus that 99% of people survive. Macrumors is full of people that need a "safe space". I've learned to accept it. Sorry if you require therapy after reading my reply. 🙂
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I'm glad you've learned to accept the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people with many more to come, but the rest of us aren't so callous.
DesertNomad
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I have worked from home for more than 20 years so it only affects me going out to obtain goods and services. How many of those 1,000,000 were over 75 years old and had multiple other conditions? I had the virus in March and while it was a terrible flu, the whole world is seriously overreacting to it. If this keeps up I will be moving to a much smaller town where the silliness doesn't exit. I can be happy in a town of less than 1,000 people like where I grew up.
The other day I saw a guy driving a car by himself on a rural highway, 30 miles form the nearest town and wearing a mask. Unbelievable.
Got it. This is literally about letting hundreds of thousands of people die because you can't bear to be told that you need to wear a mask, and maybe because you think you're invincible now that you've survived COVID once.
Grow up.
DesertNomad
macrumors 6502a
So you are willing let 1,350,000 die each year around the world so you can drive 75mph because you can't bear to drive at 15mph or less which wold prevent most of those deaths?
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40,000. 600,000 (at least, if things continue as they are). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's curious that you believe reducing the speed limit to 15 mph will eliminate more than 100% of US traffic fatalities, and that you believe people actually drive 65 MPH (presuming that's the speed limit on the roads we're talking about). Try harder.
Or, maybe stop and think about just how ridiculous it is that you're making intentionally disingenuous (edit: point retracted — see below) comparisons to traffic fatalities (because you obviously looked up the statistics, and then rounded them up by nearly 11%) in a thread about Apple stores.
Interesting edit, by the way. The issue isn't the number. It's that you're (a) not going to eliminate 100% of deaths by driving 15 MPH, and (b) that the vast majority of the gains, if we're talking about driving 15 MPH vs. 75 MPH are going to be at the upper end. The only reason to suggest a 15 MPH speed limit is to intentionally draw a comparison to an argument that's somewhat ridiculous on its face.
With rare exceptions, no measure we can take is going to eliminate 100% of deaths from any individual cause. That's not the aim; the aim is to find a balance, and that balance is never "I can do anything I want, because I don't care if I put your life at risk".
Again, I'll quote:
I think your reaction to the facewear of some person you've never even met says everything that really needs to be said here. Although, I feel I need to be clear that if you were to come back with a real, fact-based argument rather than resorting to rhetorical tricks, I'm always open to discussion and reevaluation of my viewpoints.
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DesertNomad
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I did look up worldwide traffic deaths and it is 1.35 million (post edited). I don't see how it is different... change something we do to save lives. Why is wearing masks, and closing businesses to save lives any different than changing a speed limit?
It is clear we disagree, so I am going to leave it at that.
The 40K came from here:
Traffic Deaths in U.S. Exceed 40,000 for Third Straight Year
Traffic fatalities on U.S. roads reached an estimated 40,000 in 2018, the third year in a row in which at least that many people died in vehicle crashes, according to new figures from the National Safety Council.
www.bloomberg.com
I'll give you that, though I suspect my source (which is also not a primary source, FWIW) is the more accurate. 40,000 seems suspiciously round, and Bloomberg's link to "figures from the National Safety Council" is broken. (Disable JavaScript a second or so after loading the Bloomberg page if you want to read the whole article without signing up, though there isn't really anything more to see.)The 40K came from here:Traffic Deaths in U.S. Exceed 40,000 for Third Straight Year
Traffic fatalities on U.S. roads reached an estimated 40,000 in 2018, the third year in a row in which at least that many people died in vehicle crashes, according to new figures from the National Safety Council.
cocky jeremy
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cocky jeremy
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My lack of fear of something that doesn't need to be feared. 😉
How do you even begin to explain the value of life to someone who treats it with such disregard?
What you're displaying here isn't bravery. It's such a fear of a thing you do not understand that, rather than take the simple measures required to save lives while doing everything possible to preserve the economy, you'd rather, ultimately, watch everything burn as millions die.
Tell me, how do you restore the economy of a country after allowing so many of the very workers that economy is based on to die? How do you bring a country back together after proving that a large part of the population is more than willing to reject reality as long as it hurts those who they see as other and supports their particular belief system over all others?
I pity you for the lens through which you view the world. History is rife with examples of countries which have gone down the path we're currently on, and it is not a pretty one.
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