Apple TV 3 streaming vs Roku/Plex

cegwynne

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Original poster
Nov 6, 2011
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Hi All,

Wanted to open up some questions to the group around streaming blu ray quality movies to Apple Tv vs using Plex and Roku 3. Lately I've been having trouble streaming my larger movies files via iTunes and Apple Tv3 (MKV converted to M4v) It was never flawless, but it's gotten worse, freezing at many moments and taking forever to start, if at all. I'm using a brand new Apple Time Capsule router which has been very fast.

I picked up a Roku 3 the other day and installed Plex on my iMac, I couldn't be more amazed at how well the streaming works. Full 1080p with Dolby Digital or DTS direct movies start in seconds and never stop to buffer, and I don't have to remux the MKV files.

Now I love the GUI on Apple Tv and will keep it for music playing via Airplay, but can anyone help me understand why PLEX/Roku combination stream my larger movie files worlds better than a quality product like Apple Tv 3?

Best,
-Chris
 

paulrbeers

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Dec 17, 2009
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Hi All,

Wanted to open up some questions to the group around streaming blu ray quality movies to Apple Tv vs using Plex and Roku 3. Lately I've been having trouble streaming my larger movies files via iTunes and Apple Tv3 (MKV converted to M4v) It was never flawless, but it's gotten worse, freezing at many moments and taking forever to start, if at all. I'm using a brand new Apple Time Capsule router which has been very fast.

I picked up a Roku 3 the other day and installed Plex on my iMac, I couldn't be more amazed at how well the streaming works. Full 1080p with Dolby Digital or DTS direct movies start in seconds and never stop to buffer, and I don't have to remux the MKV files.

Now I love the GUI on Apple Tv and will keep it for music playing via Airplay, but can anyone help me understand why PLEX/Roku combination stream my larger movie files worlds better than a quality product like Apple Tv 3?

Best,
-Chris

The limitations of the AppleTV:
High or Main Profile level 4.0 or lower, Baseline profile level 3.0 or lower with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.
 

cegwynne

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 6, 2011
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Hi Paul,

I see, that makes sense. I used to use handbrake to convert MVV files into M4V with the APple TV present. Recently I've just been remuxing the files because the process is much faster. I guess the encoded MKS's have been above the Apple TV's limitations.



Best,
-Chris
 

waw74

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May 27, 2008
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plex may also be converting in the background instead of sending out the raw file.

while you're watching something, go to the web manager for plex, then in the top right click the squiggly line (activity) then "Now Playing"
you should see the file that you're watching, click the i, it will say if it's direct streaming or transcoding.


i agree, i like the interface on the aTV much better, have a jailbroken aTV 2 with plex which is nice, but can be a little buggy. so have mainly been using the roku.

right now i'm using the roku in my bedroom with a set of airplay speakers, that i also use for the roku, since the TV speakers aren't that great. which makes for a great combo.
 

Idgit

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Mar 14, 2004
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Hi Paul,

I see, that makes sense. I used to use handbrake to convert MVV files into M4V with the APple TV present. Recently I've just been remuxing the files because the process is much faster. I guess the encoded MKS's have been above the Apple TV's limitations.

Best,
-Chris
You can try using Subler to lower the profile level to High 4.0. Re-optimize it and see if it streams better.

Or you can install PlexConnect on your ATV 3. It has no problem streaming high profile MP4s and MKVs. Of course, you'll need Plex Media Server running on one of your computers.
 

PM-Performance

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Feb 12, 2012
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I run the plex connect and think the quality is great. I am very picky.
Audio I have never gotten dts to come up, but it seems to still work well with my setup.
 
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