Apple TV 4... slower on wired vs wifi??

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  1. JimBanville macrumors member

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    I have 2 atv4's in two rooms in my home. Both are wired to my tp-link n/ac speed archer c8 router. I'm using 300mbps cable internet. The cables are all cat6. One is from amazon. Another is from monoprice. I installed Speedtest app on the atv's. On wifi my speeds are right at 300 on both atv's, but wired, speeds only reach around 50-80. I've even wired the atv's directly to my modem, bypasssing the router, and the speeds still only reach 50-80. Any idea why? Thanks.
     
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    my understanding is that the Wifi is faster than the ethernet, that being said i use wired as its more reliable
     
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    The apple TV only has a 10/100BASE‑T Ethernet port for some bizarre reason so the absolute maximum speed you can get out of it would be a theoretical 100mbps. Add overhead and you're at the 50-80 you're seeing. If you have a decent router, wireless will definitely be faster
     
  4. Crazy Badger macrumors 65816

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    Probably faster in bursts, but less stable and ultimately more likely to buffer. 50-80Mbps should be more than enough for anything the aTV4 will play, although why Apple didn't put in a 1Gb network adapter is beyond me. Penny pinching in the extreme, like removing the optical out.
     
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    They probably did it to conserve power. The ATV is an "always on" device and was thus designed to consume as little energy as possible. A Gigabit Ethernet port uses several times as much power as a 10/100.
     
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    Or they're cheaper. Either way.
     
  7. pmau macrumors 65816

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    No, they simply did it because of the number of hardware interrupts.
    Interrupts are triggered bz hardware, as the name says and they could not guarantee smooth operation with regards to decoding and playback using Gigabit Ethernet.
     
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    They also still don't support 4K when everyone else does.
     
  9. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Either way it doesn't matter much. ;) As someone wrote, it's more than fast enough for anything the ATV can stream. At most you might see slightly longer initial buffering.
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    That makes little sense since they'd have the same problem with the 802.11ac Wifi. ;)
     
  10. Crazy Badger macrumors 65816

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    A power saving? Really? I'd love to know how much power they might have saved by using 10/100T. I'd bet it's less per year than it would have cost them to put in Gigabit adapter. I think a little bell rings in Tim's office every time someone manages to take something cheap out of a product that saves a few pennies :D
     
  11. Rigby macrumors 601

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    The Roku 4 and new FireTV support 4K and also have 10/100 Ethernet ports. Works fine. There is currently no need for GigE in these devices.
     
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    Of course there's a need. They're just not putting it in the devices yet.
     
  13. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Why? Nothing that these devices stream is even close to 100 Mbit/s. It would be just bad engineering to waste power (and heat, potentially requiring a fan) on something you cannot utilize.
     
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    Buffering. And WiFi is not always consistent like a wired connection.
     
  15. chuyn macrumors 6502

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    What would you need more than 100 Mbps to stream?
     
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    Nothing. I'm just referring to buffering.
     
  17. Phil A. Moderator

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    Downloading updates and apps benefit from the fastest possible speed, as does airplay streaming / desktop sharing
     
  18. Rigby macrumors 601

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    Downloading updates may be slightly faster, but they aren't large to begin with. Airplay mirroring encodes the desktop content to H.264 on the fly and uses bitrates way below 100Mbps. The maximum total bitrate specified by Apple for streaming content is ~40 Mbps.
     
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    Of course they wouldn't. The only point being discussed is those with internet faster than 100 Mbps. It's not needed for everyone, but it is needed for some.
     
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    Meh... Add up your iPhone charging, etc. GB ethernet is smart. I'm surprised (or not) that we're not all using 10Gb ethernet.
     
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    Two things that could be the problem here, Interference from other wireless sources, or the WiFi router is going out, Try testing it from other Wireless devices from different locations in your home.
     
  23. GIZBUG macrumors 68000

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    So it seems most here use the WIFI vs the wired connection? I stream from my NAS device over WIFI and had no issues (the NAS is next to the Apple TV). Though about running an ethernet cable from the ATV4 to the router though, but may stick with wifi
     
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    Mine is wired to the router through a couple of switches, and even with ac wifi I think the performance is better.
     
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    Yar! You guys are saving me money! I would like to use an ATV 3 or 4 for mirroring a display and routing audio as I see fit. Suggestions? Returning my AEBS tower. Too expensive for a mere jolt to transmitting power attached to my 2011 AEBS. And the USB ports on these really are useless. Maybe I'll try a different brand. Suggestions?
    What can I really do with an ATV without buying another subscription to something? I have Amazon Video right now, but it's more like Hoopla on steroids. What say you?
     

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