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I just can't reconcile how we can have a thread like this where we are basically spinning "good enough" to fit what Apple has for sale in THIS product contrasted against iPhone 7 (getting rid of a ubiquitous headphone 3.5mm jack) threads driven by the need to move on from "antiquated" technology and take advantage of superior quality audio via audiophile-quality headphones and/or DACs.

Here with this product, we can rationalize "good enough", why 4K makes no sense etc... because Apple is "just doing what works best for most of their customer base."

There with that product, we rationalize why 3.5mm is NOT "good enough", why we need to get rid of it so that Lightning and/or Bluetooth can succeed so that Apple can "force" it's (obviously wrong) customer base to adopt "the future."

Here: cling to "the past"

There: embrace "the future," even if carrying adapters is a consumer hassle for the next few years.

How does this happen? We seem to have people that just argue on behalf of whatever Apple has for sale now and/or whatever Apple appears to be wanting to roll out soon... not necessarily what they really feel or believe. Or maybe we have people that simply sees Apple as an all-knowing, always-right-in-all-things entity so they see no fault in one product clinging to old technologies while another product must complicate most of our lives in support of "forcing" a migration to new technologies.:confused:

My own opinion on this topic: :apple:TV, as Apple's answer to the "bag of hurt," should be superior to that bag in all of the most crucial ways, particularly picture quality and sound. If it is "the future of television," shouldn't it be striving to deliver the fundamentals of that particular future in the most obvious ways?

DD and DD Plus are nice but there has been much progress made since 1992's DD launch. 1992! Were some of the people arguing about it's "good enough" qualities in a thread like this even born in 1992?

Building in the capabilities to play more modern audio codecs wouldn't necessarily force anything on anyone- just line up with the idea of Apple driving "the future" being similarly applied to all Apple products... not just selectively to fit what Apple sells now or will be selling soon.
 
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I use "Infuse" on my appletv4 and DTS works perfect!

I'll just keep buying BDs and view digital copies as a nice to have.

Turning off Siri gave me back a couple of dB, but that's about it. Audio is poorly implemented on ATV. Not sure I should be surprised. Sound quality has always been second fiddle in the world of streaming.
 
I believe Apple TV should support DTS/MKV.

Reason being....I have a media server (Plex) where most of my files are mkv with DTS audio, which I can stream on my LAN without any probs. I understand that streaming DTS over the net would use quite a bit bandwidth, which I have no problem with as my server would just transcode the DTS audio to DD. However, the fact that Apple TV cannot support these formats is ridiculous and shows how far behind Apple is. This is the ONLY reason why I will not purchase an Apple TV.
 
Ever noticed that there are NO DTS track selections on DVD discs? That's because the DVD can only hold 4.7 Gigabytes, and most of that is video.

Yes, there are DTS DVDs (I have a few), but they are usually "Special DTS Versions", but they do have them. Also, single-layer DVDs are 4.7 GBs. However, dual-layer DVDs are closer to 9 GBs.

Just a FYI. ;)
 
On the ATV4 supporting DTS: Keep in mind, that a Dolby Digital compressed audio track can run say 50-100mb's.
BUT, a DTS bit by bit of the studio mastering original runs in the GIGABYTES and works well on a BluRay disc playback but would be quite a strain to download that much data and at the same time the HD video on most folks slower bandwidths. If you want DTS sound, BluRay solves the problem, but streaming is almost out of the question at this point. Ever noticed that there are NO DTS track selections on DVD discs? That's because the DVD can only hold 4.7 Gigabytes, and most of that is video. So when you are looking at SIZE OF AUDIO FILES, there is a HUMONGOUS jump in file size, not to mention it is not compressed on a DTS (Digital Theater Sound format) Few in the U.S. have Gigabyte per second internet available to them in 2016.

There are hundreds of DTS DVDs and many had 6.1 ES tracks:

http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_6a.asp

iTunes is trying to supposedly keep up with BD anyway and there the comparison is laughable.
 
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