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Justim

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Anyone try the 9.1 beta of tvos yet?

It's much better as far as speed and fluidity. But it messes with your surround sound if you have one. Had to downgrade just for surround sound functionality.
 
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Aluminum213

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It's much better as far as speed and fluidity. But it messes with your surround sound if you have one. Had to downgrade just for surround sound functionality.

"much better"? I find that very hard to believe, it's already pretty fast and fluid and haven't noticed and lag or stuttering when trying to do anything
 
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Justim

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Sep 26, 2011
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You're arguing the subjective. There's noticeable improvement. That's normal for a .1 upgrade.
 
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ajiuo

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Xcode would not let me install provenance on 9.1 so I put her in DFU and downhraded
 
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recoil80

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No. Also, No support for remote app. Honestly I couldn't find anything new. Just quicker. Downgraded once I noticed the sound.

So it's not going to be an exciting update.
ATV4 is already pretty fast, of course the faster it is the happier I am, but I really want the remote app or a bluetooth keyboard.
 
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StevenWalker

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Xcode would not let me install provenance on 9.1 so I put her in DFU and downhraded

And this is the BIGGEST story of interest here.
I turned off Auto Updates just in case they do stop the ability to sideload apps with 9.1+ releases.

And if your report is correct, sideloading might soon be over.
 
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TrueBlou

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Xcode would not let me install provenance on 9.1 so I put her in DFU and downhraded

Were you using the latest beta of Xcode, released on November 3rd?

And this is the BIGGEST story of interest here.
I turned off Auto Updates just in case they do stop the ability to sideload apps with 9.1+ releases.

And if your report is correct, sideloading might soon be over.


I don't know if auto update will install the betas, well, it hasn't updated mine so far and I've got auto update enabled.

As for "sideloading" you're not actually side loading apps on ATV, you're just building and installing code. Exactly as we do for our apps we make for iOS/TVos. It's not like on other systems where you're circumventing some sort of system designed to prevent it. If Apple prevent us installing apps from Xcode, we're never going to be able to release apps to the AppStore because we won't be able to test them.
 
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hugomingoia

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So it's not going to be an exciting update.
ATV4 is already pretty fast, of course the faster it is the happier I am, but I really want the remote app or a bluetooth keyboard.
Let's not start a lag thread, but I found scrolling to be pretty laggy in image rich screens like For you section of the Music App or App Store search results, and I'm looking forward to improvements, in the 9.1 update probably. So glad to hear the beta seems to be better.
 
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dugbug

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Let's not start a lag thread, but I found scrolling to be pretty laggy in image rich screens like For you section of the Music App or App Store search results, and I'm looking forward to improvements, in the 9.1 update probably. So glad to hear the beta seems to be better.

probably had more to do with apple music. I have 500+ movies in icloud and atv4 zings through them in real time.
 
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ajiuo

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And this is the BIGGEST story of interest here.
I turned off Auto Updates just in case they do stop the ability to sideload apps with 9.1+ releases.

And if your report is correct, sideloading might soon be over.

No they won't end side loading... It's something with it being a beta and Xcode not having a disk image.. People had the same issue with 9.1 betas on iOS.
 
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StevenWalker

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Oct 19, 2014
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Were you using the latest beta of Xcode, released on November 3rd?

I don't know if auto update will install the betas, well, it hasn't updated mine so far and I've got auto update enabled.

If Apple prevent us installing apps from Xcode, we're never going to be able to release apps to the AppStore because we won't be able to test them.

Excellent points.

I agree, the issue was probably due to not upgrading Xcode to the latest beta version also.

cheers..
 
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SAMtheGAM

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It's much better as far as speed and fluidity. But it messes with your surround sound if you have one. Had to downgrade just for surround sound functionality.

I was hoping Surround sound would be handled better in 9.1. Auto right now on 9.0 results in PCM 7.1 output for 5.1 sources so results in no sound coming out of rear speaker. Dolby Surround mode makes all sources 5.1 including stereo so no way to process the signal as Dolby Pro Logic IIx.

What exactly happened to the surround sound in 9.1 beta?
 
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junglesnake

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Oct 17, 2011
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The beta has fixed very little if anything at all! The remote scrolling has improved buts that's all I have seen. No sound improvement, no Bluetooth drops outs or app crashes. Not sure what they actually did but the good news is...it completely resets the unit as new so you have to complete the entire setup process again! For every single thing! Ridiculous
 
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TrueBlou

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Yes God forgive a beta product doesn't work in the same way as a final release. Issues with beta software are rife and nothing new.

If you don't want to deal with them don't install it. Or at least wait until it's further along the food chain and more suitable for public consumption.

Or st the absolute very least, wait a few days and see what issues there are with it before installing.
 
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junglesnake

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Oct 17, 2011
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Yes God forgive a beta product doesn't work in the same way as a final release. Issues with beta software are rife and nothing new.

If you don't want to deal with them don't install it. Or at least wait until it's further along the food chain and more suitable for public consumption.

Or st the absolute very least, wait a few days and see what issues there are with it before installing.
I'm a developer! That's what I do but having it completely erase all content is something that has never happened on any Apple device I have ever used which is all of them minus the watch! Seriously I see you in every post promoting this product or defending it! What's Apple Pay you a month??
 
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TrueBlou

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I'm a developer! That's what I do but having it completely erase all content is something that has never happened on any Apple device I have ever used which is all of them minus the watch! Seriously I see you in every post promoting this product or defending it! What's Apple Pay you a month??

I'm hardly promoting it, merely stating the obvious. I'm a developer myself and if there's one thing I've learned it's not to jump on every single beta release just because it's there. It's usually best to wait until they balance out and get the kinks worked out.

The only time I think it's worth updating is when there's a new feature added to the sdk that you absolutely must use in your app.
 
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junglesnake

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Oct 17, 2011
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Yes God forgive a beta product doesn't work in the same way as a final release. Issues with beta software are rife and nothing new.

If you don't want to deal with them don't install it. Or at least wait until it's further along the food chain and more suitable for public consumption.

Or st the absolute very least, wait a few days and see what issues there are with it before installing.
1 more thing that has me puzzled! If your enjoying your new toy so much then why do you post every 2 minutes? Does the tv have a safari app I'm not familiar with? Because your never using yours whatsoever, you just try to defend every possible problem. Just has me wondering is all!
 
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junglesnake

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Oct 17, 2011
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I'm hardly promoting it, merely stating the obvious. I'm a developer myself and if there's one thing I've learned it's not to jump on every single beta release just because it's there. It's usually best to wait until they balance out and get the kinks worked out.

The only time I think it's worth updating is when there's a new feature added to the sdk that you absolutely must use in your app.
Which is exactly why I downloaded it. It's 100 percent essential to test the app I am working on with every tvos available!
 
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TrueBlou

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1 more thing that has me puzzled! If your enjoying your new toy so much then why do you post every 2 minutes? Does the tv have a safari app I'm not familiar with? Because your never using yours whatsoever, you just try to defend every possible problem. Just has me wondering is all!

Oddly enough, it sits on my desk beside me during working hours as I'm using it for development. That also give me plenty of time to use it as well.

When there's an actual, real problem that isn't caused by, oh let's say, someone installing an unnecessary update and whinging about it when there's a problem. I won't defend it, I'm more than happy to agree with a real issue.
 
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junglesnake

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Oct 17, 2011
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Oddly enough, it sits on my desk beside me during working hours as I'm using it for development. That also give me plenty of time to use it as well.

When there's an actual, real problem that isn't caused by, oh let's say, someone installing an unnecessary update and whinging about it when there's a problem. I won't defend it, I'm more than happy to agree with a real issue.
Every issue is a real issue! What don't you get about that? Bluetooth, apps crashing, etc are very important issues!
 
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