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I am absolutely loving mine so far. Even with the resolution increase, it is noticeably snappier than my 4th gen models. Launching apps, using the switcher, boot up, everything is just a breeze. Also, watching 4 simultaneous football games in 1080p HD through the new ESPN app is some kind of magic.

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Great image that highlights the fact that no matter how good our TV's are, the network broadcast plays a big part in what we consider good. 4 different images with 4 different color profiles. The OCD in me would put it's head through the TV. The sports fan in me would punch the OCD in face, drink another beer.
 
The first iOS device with a fan. I wonder if the A11X could be the first Apple designed CPU to go into a mac. The ATV is "only" $180...imagine a new $399 mac mini with A11X, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, a few TB3 ports. And actually being "mini" versus what we have today.
 
I am absolutely loving mine so far. Even with the resolution increase, it is noticeably snappier than my 4th gen models. Launching apps, using the switcher, boot up, everything is just a breeze. Also, watching 4 simultaneous football games in 1080p HD through the new ESPN app is some kind of magic.

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Ok that would utterly kill my weekends. My wife will hate this.
 
I am not sure removing the USB-C port was a particularly great idea. Sure, xCode 9 can deploy via wireless network, but what if, as a developer, you end up in the situation where you've no network access. It does happen! I don't care about Kodi and the likes, but from a developer's perspective I think this just made things a bit less friendly.

You're describing a super rare situation. Why add the expense for millions of buyers when almost no one will have any benefit from it?

Additionally, developers aren't the first group that Apple is looking to appease with their products. They're important, but they're certainly not the major focus.

Most developers will have zero issues with the removal of the USB-C port.
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No usb-c? Then how to test app on the Apple TV then?

Xcode 9 supports wireless updates for developers. Simply send it over the network.
 
I am an owner of the Apple TV 4K, and I must say it's amazing how many apps can stay in the memory. Sometimes I play a game and then I do a lot of other stuff, and the day after when I start the game, it's still in-memory.

I should snoop around with Instruments- I wonder if since it's an Apple TV it has far fewer processes gobbling up memory like an iPhone or iPad would have. Hey, there isn't even an (official) Safari to eat up RAM loading web pages...
 
Interesting it doesn't have 4GB of RAM. I assumed the iPad Pro had that much to help push the extra pixels. 4K TVs have more pixels than any iPad, so I guess I was wrong. Unless tvOS needs a lot less RAM than iOS? Or maybe they are just being Apple, saving themselves a dime or 2.
 
The first iOS device with a fan. I wonder if the A11X could be the first Apple designed CPU to go into a mac. The ATV is "only" $180...imagine a new $399 mac mini with A11X, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, a few TB3 ports. And actually being "mini" versus what we have today.
$399. Lol. Not with the new luxury fashion branding.
 
Ok that would utterly kill my weekends. My wife will hate this.

You can do this currently with the Apple TV 4. You don't need the 4K version to do it. And it is in 1080p as well. this is because of ESPN, not because of Apple.
 
Not sure what the complaint is about the remote. The feature I like most is the forward and reverse after you've paused it. It's quite slick to slide left and ride through any video very quickly. Also, if this is integrated into your home theater, more than likely you're using something like a Harmony which means you don't really need to use it. But I actually switch over to the Apple remote because I think it works very good.

BTW, for those that have 4K TVs, you can change chroma from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2. Unfortunately, my new Yamaha receiver has issues with that *angry face*.

I also have the Shield which does outperform the ATV 4K as far as capabilities, but the UI is complete garbage. ATV UI is loads better.
 
I am absolutely loving mine so far. Even with the resolution increase, it is noticeably snappier than my 4th gen models. Launching apps, using the switcher, boot up, everything is just a breeze. Also, watching 4 simultaneous football games in 1080p HD through the new ESPN app is some kind of magic.

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Nice TV! Please describe.
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Nice TV! Please describe.
 
I hope not, some of us use Mini's to do real work, not ChromeBook-esque crap.
I do as well. In fact, I'm still using the best Mini ever made, the late 2012 quad-core i7. Sadly user upgradable minis won't be coming back, I guess we'll have to wait until the elusive modular Mac Pro comes out of the mysterious Phil's pipeline.
 
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I have to be honest, compared to the shield, this is the biggest piece of garbage I have seen. Doesn't support Atmos, and the thing tries to make everything HDR. Also wouldn't play any of my UHD videos on plex without transcoding (which could be a plex issue but still).

Shield out of the box supported everything and works flawlessly.

To be fair, Apple has announced Atmos is coming.

That said, the lack of auto switching may be a deal breaker for me. It takes no less than 10 steps -- using Siri! -- to switch from one native resolution format to another. Given that most content is still 1080p SDR, I definitely do not want fake HDR applied to everything, nor do I really want Apple upscaling my 1080p content and bypassing my state of the art TV upscaling features.

I also noticed that the Apple TV doesn't seem to AirPlay 4K filesvia iTunes HomeSharing at full res, and won't play some 4K files at all, even though they appear identical to the 4K files it will play.

How many days do I have to return this thing?
 
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The A10X is supposed to have a 128-bit memory bus. I wonder if that still is the case if they are using 3 GB of RAM?
 
I'm sure the decision to remove the USB-C port was made because, as well as Xcode now supporting wireless installs, apps that sent unencrypted video+audio out of it made it super easy to pirate some streams (not all).
 
I wonder how high it can clock, A10X with active cooling is actually exactly what I was hoping for. They should really push game devs to work on it!

Though, removing the USB C port isn't great, an external hard drive so it could be a plex server (not just receiver) like the Shield would have been dope.
 
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