Apple TV 4K - yes please

[Vermifuge]

An interesting, albeit misleading statistic. What's the rate of 4K display adoption among homes that have or are in the market for a streaming appliance like the Apple TV (1080p), Fire TV (4K), Nvidia Shield (4K HDR), Chromecast (4K), or Roku (4K)? Apple is way behind the curve compared to competitor devices and their target market for the Apple TV is much more likely to have or want 4K than the general public.

Misleading is assuming Apple is going after bleeding edge adopters. It's become increasingly apparent that Apple is ignoring the "Pro" market and has instead started targeting the least common denominator. It's unlikely to see Apple take action before the market has reached 51% of NA homes.

You can also expect to see the iTune store / iDevices support 4k with the appropriate hardware and content as well. You wont see a 4k Apple TV come before Apple has rolled out its own 4k content library.

Currently 4k adoption is between 10 - 20%.... it's projected to hit 35% some time in 2019...

Source

 

[Nugget]

It's unlikely to see Apple take action before the market has reached 51% of NA homes. Currently 4k adoption is between 10 - 20%.... it's projected to hit 35% some time in 2019.

To believe this, you have to believe that at least one of the following things is correct:

1. Apple will not update the Apple TV hardware until 2020 or later.

or

2. Apple will update the Apple TV hardware at some point in the next three years, but it will still be limited to just 1080p output and will not support 4K or 4K HDR output like all of the competing products do.

Which are you betting on?

 

[Vermifuge]

To believe this, you have to believe that at least one of the following things is correct:

1. Apple will not update the Apple TV hardware until 2020 or later.

or

2. Apple will update the Apple TV hardware at some point in the next three years, but it will still be limited to just 1080p output and will not support 4K or 4K HDR output like all of the competing products do.

Which are you betting on?

How many days between the Apple TV 3 and the Apple TV 4?

I'll save you the trouble

The Apple TV 3 came out Match 7th 2012
The Apple TV 4 came out October 30th 2015

A total of 1333 days between the two generations.
Now add the same number of days to October 30th 2015

I would say anywhere between October 2018 - October 2019 is a safe bet.

 

[Nugget]

So #1 is your bet, then?

 

[Vermifuge]

So #1 is your bet, then?

I would say anywhere between October 2018 - October 2019 is a safe bet.

 

[mellofello]

How many days between the Apple TV 3 and the Apple TV 4?

I'll save you the trouble

The Apple TV 3 came out Match 7th 2012
The Apple TV 4 came out October 30th 2015

A total of 1333 days between the two generations.
Now add the same number of days to October 30th 2015

I would say anywhere between October 2018 - October 2019 is a safe bet.

There was a slight spec bump on ATV 3 mid cycle though. Fingers crossed that apple does the same, and quietly slides a HDMI 2.0a port in there.

 

[Vermifuge]

There was a slight spec bump on ATV 3 mid cycle though. Fingers crossed that apple does the same, and quietly slides a HDMI 2.0a port in there.

Changes to the ATV 3 Rev A were for cost reduction, it wasn't a speck bump nor added any features.

Yes, i'm going to be a kill-joy about this.

 

[Good User Name]

Changes to the ATV 3 Rev A were for cost reduction, it wasn't a speck bump nor added any features.

Yes, i'm going to be a kill-joy about this.

Didn't they add 1080p capability?

 

[mellofello]

Didn't they add 1080p capability?

It was already 1080p, but they added ad hock airplay, and by all accounts it was a bit zippier.

Apple could easily slide it in similarly. Just slap a 4k port in, and make it a slide in a keynote.

Oh well I will just stick with my shield for now.

 

[Vermifuge]

It was already 1080p, but they added ad hock airplay, and by all accounts it was a bit zippier.

Apple could easily slide it in similarly. Just slap a 4k port in, and make it a slide in a keynote.

Oh well I will just stick with my shield for now.

Eh.... The Apple TV 3 had a dual core CPU with one core disabled. The revised Apple TV 3 Rev A had a single core that allowed for a 50% reduction in die size.... there is no user experience boost.

it did two things

1. pier to pier airplay
2. decreased power usage....

 

[Hrothgar]

So - is there any reason not to upgrade from Atv3 to Atv4 right now? Some apps I want (like Filmstruck) are not available on Atv3.

 

[Vermifuge]

So - is there any reason not to upgrade from Atv3 to Atv4 right now? Some apps I want (like Filmstruck) are not available on Atv3.

just get it, it's a huge improvement