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I think that's what he had in mind. All that's left is we need to stop paying the cable companies for access and be able to just pay $10/month/channel. I'll take Fox (for Family Guy and American Dad), Food Network (for fiancée), and I think there's another channel my fiancée would want (E! ? Not sure what the other channel she watches is). Oh, and CC for South Park, of course.

That would be $40/month. Much better than what I'm paying right now for hundreds of channels I don't want just so I can have the four I want.

$10 per Chanel? Are you serious??? From this post you clearly show you don't know how expensive it is to create tv programs.

As expensive as paid tv subscriptions seem to be, it is actually way cheaper than if it were offered per diem.
 
Add this feature to iOS for iPhone and iPad!

So, let me get this straight: you want your app icons hidden from your iPhone/iPad, but you don't want to uninstall the app? You also don't want to use a folder to hide your unused apps from the home screen? Why?

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$10 per Chanel? Are you serious??? From this post you clearly show you don't know how expensive it is to create tv programs.

As expensive as paid tv subscriptions seem to be, it is actually way cheaper than if it were offered per diem.

Please explain how that can possibly be the case. I pay $80/month for a few hundred channels. This means I'm paying under $1/channel/month right now.

I just checked some numbers. Big Bang Theory has a budget of $2M/episode. Suppose we have a month with five new episodes - that's $10M to produce all the episodes of BBT for a month. BBT generally has over 10M viewers for each new episode (it ranges from 7M to 17M), which would generate them at least $70M/month if abnormally few people watched it and they charged $10/month.

They wouldn't even need ads to support the show at all.

I'm pretty sure they could charge less than $10/month/channel, but that's about the max I'd be willing to pay.

Obviously there's a lot of stuff I've left off. I'm sure there's some overhead beyond just the budgets for producing each episode of each show.
 
So, let me get this straight: you want your app icons hidden from your iPhone/iPad, but you don't want to uninstall the app? You also don't want to use a folder to hide your unused apps from the home screen? Why?

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I'm talking about stock apps that come with the phone. I don't use Compass, Stocks, Game Center, Contacts, Notes, or Newstand. Currently, I do hide them in a folder, but I wouldn't mind being able to hide them completely (without Jailbreaking).
 
That's it? There are zero functionality changes in 6.1. That's not an "update." It's barely a fart.
 
That's it? There are zero functionality changes in 6.1. That's not an "update." It's barely a fart.

your crudeness aside, of course it's still an update. not every update offers exciting new features.

it's a free update, get over yourself.
 
Please explain how that can possibly be the case. I pay $80/month for a few hundred channels. This means I'm paying under $1/channel/month right now.

I just checked some numbers. Big Bang Theory has a budget of $2M/episode. Suppose we have a month with five new episodes - that's $10M to produce all the episodes of BBT for a month. BBT generally has over 10M viewers for each new episode (it ranges from 7M to 17M), which would generate them at least $70M/month if abnormally few people watched it and they charged $10/month.

They wouldn't even need ads to support the show at all.

I'm pretty sure they could charge less than $10/month/channel, but that's about the max I'd be willing to pay.

Obviously there's a lot of stuff I've left off. I'm sure there's some overhead beyond just the budgets for producing each episode of each show.

Yeah you did leave off some stuff. The biggest of which is the cost of creating new content. BBT does not exist in a vacuum at CBS. The profit generated by the hit shows pays for the development of other new shows and niche shows that don't have a mass following*.

You aren't alone in assessing a value of $10 per show. I see it all the time. Unfortunately that assessment is soooooooooooooo far from the reality of what content creators are currently paid. Also, what incentive would any company have for going with the suggestion you made? I can't think of a single one. Granted, there may be value to you in the a-la-carte model, but you don't control content. Basically you're asking (not you specifically) a company to get rid of guaranteed monstrous revenue and base their income on the whims of the public. You like BBT today, but tomorrow you might like some other show on another network. You then take your $10 elsewhere. What you're asking (again not you specifically) for is not a sustainable business model. Especially when the current model generates so much income. They would have to be bat-s*** crazy to do something like that.

*Just so know, if this ever happens, you and the wife should start looking for some new favorite channels. Comedy Central and E! (and a host of others) are not top cable channels. They are only on TV because the $80 you currently pay subsidizes their existence.
 
I wonder if Job's breakthrough TV interface is to just treat each TV show as a podcast and stream them on demand? Seems to be the way the Apple TV is going.

Anyway, nice to see the ability to hide items. I wish they updated the Remote app so you can do it much more easily.

I watch most of my TV online now. It's great with 4G. No buffering at all. If they simply added all the online TV channels available they would have a decent product. I can even get most of the sports channels I want (Sky Sports, Eurosport, MLB) through an online only subscription without the need for cable or satellite. It doesn't work out any cheaper but it does mean I can watch TV on the go.
 
It's a handy update, but I fail to see how it could be described as "long overdue". The feature was already there and worked just fine, it was just very slightly less convenient to access.

Exactly. And not worthy of a ".1" update designation.
 
Airplay stopped working

Airplay stopped working with my iPhone 5s and iPad mini after this update to the apple tv3.. Anyone else have this issue.. I've tried all the regular resetting and nothing seems to fix it.
 
Any fix for Airplay bug?

Since the last release of Apple TV/iOS, the Airplay icon does not appear on my iOS devices unless/until I restart the Apple TV each evening when I want to stream something (many have reported this issue). Don't know if it is iOS 7.0.6, ATV, or both.
 
Yeah you did leave off some stuff. The biggest of which is the cost of creating new content. BBT does not exist in a vacuum at CBS. The profit generated by the hit shows pays for the development of other new shows and niche shows that don't have a mass following*.

You aren't alone in assessing a value of $10 per show. I see it all the time. Unfortunately that assessment is soooooooooooooo far from the reality of what content creators are currently paid. Also, what incentive would any company have for going with the suggestion you made? I can't think of a single one. Granted, there may be value to you in the a-la-carte model, but you don't control content. Basically you're asking (not you specifically) a company to get rid of guaranteed monstrous revenue and base their income on the whims of the public. You like BBT today, but tomorrow you might like some other show on another network. You then take your $10 elsewhere. What you're asking (again not you specifically) for is not a sustainable business model. Especially when the current model generates so much income. They would have to be bat-s*** crazy to do something like that.

*Just so know, if this ever happens, you and the wife should start looking for some new favorite channels. Comedy Central and E! (and a host of others) are not top cable channels. They are only on TV because the $80 you currently pay subsidizes their existence.

Well, we have 'democratized' print, music and just about everything else. It only makes sense that this is next. Although, I would say in defense of the original poster, that Netflix seems to be doing OK at about that $10 per month. They are even creating original, Emmy-winning content. I guess $10/month times 50,000,000 people turns into $6 billion a year. I am willing to bet that some serious creative could be turned out with that kind of a budget....
 
No new features?

There's no need to add "new feature" if you are going to introduce a super duper new and improved, knock your socks off, new aTV in the near future. ;)
 
Figures, I just got around hiding them the hard way last night:mad:

Now, if they would bring back iTunes extras and arranging TV shows by seasons in the local streaming menu, I'll be happy.
 
Well, we have 'democratized' print, music and just about everything else. It only makes sense that this is next. Although, I would say in defense of the original poster, that Netflix seems to be doing OK at about that $10 per month. They are even creating original, Emmy-winning content. I guess $10/month times 50,000,000 people turns into $6 billion a year. I am willing to bet that some serious creative could be turned out with that kind of a budget....
$10/month for old movies and tv shows with a smidgen of new content. Also, there model has not proven to be viable long term.
 
Well, piss me off! Now the music app is back on the top row, and I can't hide it!! WTF?? Don't tell me you can no longer hide it! :mad:
 
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Please explain how that can possibly be the case. I pay $80/month for a few hundred channels. This means I'm paying under $1/channel/month right now.

I just checked some numbers. Big Bang Theory has a budget of $2M/episode. Suppose we have a month with five new episodes - that's $10M to produce all the episodes of BBT for a month. BBT generally has over 10M viewers for each new episode (it ranges from 7M to 17M), which would generate them at least $70M/month if abnormally few people watched it and they charged $10/month.

They wouldn't even need ads to support the show at all.

I'm pretty sure they could charge less than $10/month/channel, but that's about the max I'd be willing to pay.

Obviously there's a lot of stuff I've left off. I'm sure there's some overhead beyond just the budgets for producing each episode of each show.

The $80 you quoted is because of bundling. Networks bundle channels that cable companies have to buy. And they in turn sell it to you in bundles. Also your costs are further subsidized by commercials. So you are currently not directly paying for each channel.

Also you example notes the cost of one show. Now times that by 10 shows for EACH channel without the bundling that lowers the price. At $10 a Chanel, networks/studios would not be able to produce quality shows you want.

If you want to get an idea of how much a la carte would really cost, start purchasing all the shows you watch on iTunes/amazon/google play etc..

Then you will really see at the end of the year.
 
...If you want to get an idea of how much a la carte would really cost, start purchasing all the shows you watch on iTunes/amazon/google play etc..

Then you will really see at the end of the year.

I did exactly that. And you are right, buying a la carte came out only a couple hundred dollars cheaper over a year, partly because I have a minimal DirecTV subscription (under $100/mo). Also, what i was uncomfortable with is that if you buy something and later lose interest in it, you've paid for it. Add to that discovery of new stuff is a lot dicier compared to just flipping through channels, I decided to stick with my provider. It just wasn't worth a couple hundred dollars a year to lose flexibility.
 
There's no need to add "new feature" if you are going to introduce a super duper new and improved, knock your socks off, new aTV in the near future. ;)

Right.... Leave all the idiots who have bought your products behind, hopefully they'll be dim enough to buy your "new and improved" product, if you don't give them a meaningful upgrade.

We still cannot hide the Apple tiles on the top. These are basically ads for Apple services and we should be able to get rid of them and replace them with tiles we actually use, like Netflix or anything else.

Apple TV is not a free product, the box actually costs costs more than most competitors' products. We should not be force-fed Apple tiles (ads) on hardware we paid for.
 
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