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mr.thedaniel

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I currently have an apple TV, use it often for netflix and hulu as I don't have cable. I'm really excited about Xbox One (especially because my 360 just red-ringed yesterday), especially for its non-gaming features.

I started thinking about my whole home theater setup, and started considering the advantages of attaching my apple TV to the Xbone hdmi pass-through for voice control. Any thoughts on this or other advantages/interesting ideas for owners of both xbone and atv?
 
I currently have an apple TV, use it often for netflix and hulu as I don't have cable. I'm really excited about Xbox One (especially because my 360 just red-ringed yesterday), especially for its non-gaming features.

I started thinking about my whole home theater setup, and started considering the advantages of attaching my apple TV to the Xbone hdmi pass-through for voice control. Any thoughts on this or other advantages/interesting ideas for owners of both xbone and atv?

I believe the HDMI IN is limited to Set-Top boxes only.
 
Any HDMI input will work. It will not be able to control your Apple TV like a STB but it will still work provided you use the Apple TV remote.

I just don't see the point, unless you have 2-3 HDMI inputs on your TV. The Xbox one is coded to support Set-Top boxes like changing tv channels and such.
Would be nice if they open up for 3rd party support. But don't see that happening.
 
I just don't see the point, unless you have 2-3 HDMI inputs on your TV. The Xbox one is coded to support Set-Top boxes like changing tv channels and such.
Would be nice if they open up for 3rd party support. But don't see that happening.

The point is you hook up your main HDMI input to it and you can play Xbox (or apps on the Xbox) without having to switch inputs (and it is always on). Honestly, the IR support for controlling your STB will be terrible. But being able to instantly switch to your Xbox will be the killer feature and it will probably drive people to use the apps on the Xbox more than they do today. I would venture to say about 10 people will actually want to use their Xbox to control the STB.
 
The point is you hook up your main HDMI input to it and you can play Xbox (or apps on the Xbox) without having to switch inputs (and it is always on). Honestly, the IR support for controlling your STB will be terrible. But being able to instantly switch to your Xbox will be the killer feature and it will probably drive people to use the apps on the Xbox more than they do today. I would venture to say about 10 people will actually want to use their Xbox to control the STB.

Count me as well. I use my Logitech revue (google tv) to control my STB, voice control on Xbox would be a nice addition :p
 
I an't wait to get my XBOX One! pre ordered and I got the day off for Nov 22th

Woot woot!

I was going to pre-order mine on store but did it online.

Love the anticipation when the UPS/FedEx guy is on his way.

I guess I'll be sleeping by the door the night before :p
Right in Time for the thanksgiving holiday
 
Woot woot!

I was going to pre-order mine on store but did it online.

Love the anticipation when the UPS/FedEx guy is on his way.

I guess I'll be sleeping by the door the night before :p
Right in Time for the thanksgiving holiday

I will be at BESTBuy at 12:01am to get my XBOX One! I got friday off!

This will be my 2nd camp out! first was the iPhone 5! I couldn't wait for UPS had to get it that night! :apple:
 
I will be at BESTBuy at 12:01am to get my XBOX One! I got friday off!

This will be my 2nd camp out! first was the iPhone 5! I couldn't wait for UPS had to get it that night! :apple:

12:01? You gotta be there like 6-7 PM.
It's going to be packed!
And be careful, wasn't so nice camping out 8 years ago.
News were reporting people getting shot and stuff lol
 
Honestly, the IR support for controlling your STB will be terrible.

Or not...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-what-the-xbox-one-dash-means-for-gamers

Voice control on Xbox One actually works and it seems to be genuinely useful. It should be faster than using the joypad for certain functions, but ideally you'd use both in concert. And as for Xbox's isolation from the rest of the components in your system, that is now clearly a thing of the past.

"It'll work with any TV, any amplifiers. It'll work with any AV equipment at home," says Xbox director of product planning Albert Penello. "When we say 'Xbox On' we can actually light up your whole entire system and control everything just with voice."

With full system integration, voice control comes into its own. Penello likens Xbox One's incorporation with your equipment to the Harmony universal remote, except that your voice is the key. You can walk into your lounge and your voice powers up everything: you won't need to reach for your remote or Xbox controller, you won't need to use multiple doobries to access each part of your system. Two words and you're up and running. Xbox One is always on. Even in its low-power sleep state, it should fully reactivate before your HDTV gets around to displaying its image. From a dashboard perspective at least, the days of waiting around for your console to boot should now be a thing of the past.

For this technology to work effectively, three things need to happen. First of all, Kinect's voice recognition tech has to just work - no mean feat considering the amount of languages supported, and the range of accents to accurately process. Secondly, Xbox One needs to know exactly what equipment is in the room in order to speak their own individual infra-red based languages. And finally, and perhaps most crucially, the IR signals that emanate from the console always need to register with the target hardware.

(snip)

Integration with your home system comes via a simple set-up procedure, but Penello's instructions are clearly making their way through to the TV he has set up in the presentation room. And it's all happening without any kind of traditional IR blaster visible in the room.

"Xbox mute. Xbox unmute. Xbox volume up. Xbox volume down."

"That's not going through wires," says Xbox group manager of corporate PR, David Dennis. "That's Kinect blasting the infra-red codes to the TV, the TV picks it up and that's the TV UI changing."

(snip)

But what is impressive is that every voice command registered by Kinect is flawlessly transmitted to the relevant kit in the room. It works so well because Kinect itself is the IR blaster. Microsoft has augmented the new Kinect sensor with an IR transmitter in order to see the environment even in pitch black conditions. The upshot of this is that the technology works by drenching the entire room in infra-red light. Forget little LEDs attached to wires you dangle in front of your set-top box; if that's an IR blaster, the Kinect solution is effectively the equivalent of going nuclear. Debug Kinect tools allow you to see what the IR sensor sees - complete blanket infra-red coverage of the whole room. It's hard to imagine a scenario where this form of IR blasting wouldn't work.
 

Oh it will. There's is no way it will be flawless. And it will be delayed (that is the nature of using IR blasters).

MS should really be ashamed at how they showed off the video of the user browsing the guide and instantly changing channels. What they didn't show is your Xbox sending the 3 channels numbers via IR, pausing, then sending enter. Then your TV shows the ugly cable box guide below the Xbox interface hiding most of what is on the screen for several more seconds.
 
I have a 360 now, but im going PS4 this generation with a rasberry pi running xbian. Im hoping in a few years I wont even conceive the idea of using a cable box the PS4's internet tv seems more futureproof,and if it flops I can still make my own setups that will outperform the xboxs media capabilities.
 
I just hope it works with my Japanese set-top box. I'm sure it will eventually, just not right away. :(

It depends on what you mean by works. You can run your hdmi in the Xbox One and out the TV. This will let you use the Kinect or Xbox controller to play games/apps and go back to your stb. Even if it doesn't "work" with your STB, it just means you can't use it to change channels or use the guide. Like I said earlier, this is not going to be a great feature anyways unlike the bogus videos they showed. But most of the features will work no matter what box you have.
 
Working?

Anyone have this working? I saw a video of someone who had it working but they were also running XBMC on their Apple TV so I think it was jailbroken (?).

I have it all plugged in correctly, but I get no video from the Apple TV, only sound. I unplugged and plugged in the Apple TV and got the white Apple logo loading visible on the Xbone, but when it's done loading it goes back to the black screen audio only.

Any ideas?
 
Anyone have this working? I saw a video of someone who had it working but they were also running XBMC on their Apple TV so I think it was jailbroken (?).

I have it all plugged in correctly, but I get no video from the Apple TV, only sound. I unplugged and plugged in the Apple TV and got the white Apple logo loading visible on the Xbone, but when it's done loading it goes back to the black screen audio only.

Any ideas?

I have it working. I am also able to control the video (pause, play, rewind, fast forward) on my apple tv using kinect voice commands.

I had the same issue as you at first (only sound no video) I took the HDMI cord out on the apple tv, then put it back in, then I did the same to the other end that was in the xbox, and then it worked fine for me.

To get the playback commands to work with the apple tv, set your set top box manufacturer to Apple, and the device to Apple TV (when I tried AppleTV 2 it did not work for me)
 
Thanks

Thanks for the tips! I'll be trying this out as soon as I get the chance!
 
Working!

Got it working just like you said! I had to try with the Xbox One running the "TV" mode for it to do the video handshake. But now it's working great!

THANK YOU!
 
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