Apple TV Juttery

[jkeep]

Ive had a problem with Apple TV 4 (not 4k) from day one.
It doesn't matter if I'm using airplay to watch a movie or I'm watching
a movie in Apple tv on my MacBook on my tv.
it is jittery from the start & is bloody annoying.
Ive tried turning the frame rate on & also a restart.
My router is downstairs so plugging the Apple TV directly into
the router isn't an option.
I believe my wifi signal is quite good.
everything is ok on netflix & prime its just if I want to watch
a movie on airplay or Apple TV.

 

[waw74]

airplay is not perfect. and it normally has less than optimal results.

you say..."a movie in Apple tv on my MacBook on my tv.'
you're watching something in the TV app on your Mac? and outputting it on the TV?
how exactly are you doing that?
direct video cable -- the Mac can't auto match frame rates.
airplay -- see above, also can't match frame rate this way either.

if you're on a direct cable from your Mac, you can manually adjust the frame rate, but it still probably won't match the video

How to view monitor refresh rate in macOS?

I just purchased a Dell P2175Q monitor for my 15" MBP w/Touchbar. I'm connecting with a USB-C to DisplayPort cable, but when I go to Apple > System Preference > Displays, there is nothing about the

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Why don't you use the TV app on your aTV?
Netflix and prime is working like they should, the TV app will as well.



if you're playing your own media, airplay really isn't the answer.
Take a look at Plex, infuse, or VLC.

all 3 are free, Plex and infuse both have the option to pay for additional features.

With Plex you have to run a server on your computer, it categorizes all your files, and adds descriptions, personnel, and artwork
you then get the Plex app for all your devices, (iOS, iPad, tvOS, Roku, android, Mac, windows, linux, and most smartTVs)
if the player can handle the file as is, the sever sends it on, if not it converts to something that works.
it's also nice, because since it's server/client, it doesn't care which client you're on, start a movie on aTV, stop, and pick it up on your phone.
and as long as both server and client have internet, it will work, even if they're not on the same network. (bandwidth permitting) (you do have to enable, and possibly troubleshoot)
Plex is pretty close to your own personal Netflix.
your friends can also make an account, and you can share with them,
With the paid level, you can even sync media to your mobile device,

infuse is similar, but it all happens on the aTV.
you share folders on your computer, and infuse will categorize.
there is some sharing of configs between aTVs on the network, but I'm not sure how much.
remote viewing, sharing with friends, and syncing to your mobile doesn't exist in this app.
you can also turn off the metadata, and just browse files.

VLC is just a player.
you can browse shared folders. and then play files.

 

[priitv8]

If your aTV is far from the wifi access point, I would try peer-to-peer airplay or simply wire the aTV to MacBook. Works for AirPlay/HomeSharing from your laptop. Should actually also work for online streaming, if you know how to set your MacBook to share internet connection from wireless to wired ethernet.

 

[jkeep]

airplay is not perfect. and it normally has less than optimal results.

you say..."a movie in Apple tv on my MacBook on my tv.'
you're watching something in the TV app on your Mac? and outputting it on the TV?
how exactly are you doing that?
direct video cable -- the Mac can't auto match frame rates.
airplay -- see above, also can't match frame rate this way either.

if you're on a direct cable from your Mac, you can manually adjust the frame rate, but it still probably won't match the video

How to view monitor refresh rate in macOS?

I just purchased a Dell P2175Q monitor for my 15" MBP w/Touchbar. I'm connecting with a USB-C to DisplayPort cable, but when I go to Apple > System Preference > Displays, there is nothing about the

apple.stackexchange.com

Why don't you use the TV app on your aTV?
Netflix and prime is working like they should, the TV app will as well.



if you're playing your own media, airplay really isn't the answer.
Take a look at Plex, infuse, or VLC.

all 3 are free, Plex and infuse both have the option to pay for additional features.

With Plex you have to run a server on your computer, it categorizes all your files, and adds descriptions, personnel, and artwork
you then get the Plex app for all your devices, (iOS, iPad, tvOS, Roku, android, Mac, windows, linux, and most smartTVs)
if the player can handle the file as is, the sever sends it on, if not it converts to something that works.
it's also nice, because since it's server/client, it doesn't care which client you're on, start a movie on aTV, stop, and pick it up on your phone.
and as long as both server and client have internet, it will work, even if they're not on the same network. (bandwidth permitting) (you do have to enable, and possibly troubleshoot)
Plex is pretty close to your own personal Netflix.
your friends can also make an account, and you can share with them,
With the paid level, you can even sync media to your mobile device,

infuse is similar, but it all happens on the aTV.
you share folders on your computer, and infuse will categorize.
there is some sharing of configs between aTVs on the network, but I'm not sure how much.
remote viewing, sharing with friends, and syncing to your mobile doesn't exist in this app.
you can also turn off the metadata, and just browse files.

VLC is just a player.
you can browse shared folders. and then play files.

Ive had an ATV for years & never encountered this issue before.
On an external HD I have about 500 movies all between 1-5gb
all tagged & converted to MP4.
If I want to watch a move I drag it into iTunes/ATV app on my
MacBook then go to computer on the ATV/TV and play.
Is this the correct way?

 

[waw74]

the way you do it should work, it's actually just sending the file over.
The file is playing on the aTV. and not using airplay.
I did just try it the way you do it, and my frame rate did switch.


take a look at plex or infuse.
both are just a little more polished than the way you do it.


Plex requires running an extra program on your Mac, but as long as the files can already be played by the aTV it doesn't use much. (it sounds like you're good to go there)
It is much more full featured than infuse, but you'll need to try both to see which one you like

Infuse does require a paid upgrade to play certain kinds of files, but it handles a lot natvely.

for Plex
-create a free account
-dowload the server - https://www.plex.tv/media-server-downloads/
-move it to applications, and launch
-your web browser will open (or hit "open plex") in the menu bar (the plex server will run there)
-in the web page, go to settings (tool icon in the top right) (or select preferences in the menu bar drop down)
-on the left, find "settings -> general" and claim server
-scroll down more on that page and "manage -> libraries"
-- "add library"
-- select "movie type" and name if you want. hit next
-- find the folder with all your movies (it should work on an entire drive, you might have to make a folder)

on you other devices, get the app and log-in, your movies should all be there, with nice posters and names.
You can even watch in your web browser.


For infuse, you need to share the drive from the Mac OS.
make sure you hit options, and choose "SMB (windows file sharing)"

Share Mac files with Windows users

To let users connect to your Mac from a Windows computer, turn on file sharing and enable SMB sharing.

support.apple.com

Then in the infuse app, add the share

Both have pretty detailed instructions for how to add media and get them working properly
infuse - https://firecore.com/infuse
plex - https://www.plex.tv

 

[jkeep]

the way you do it should work, it's actually just sending the file over.
The file is playing on the aTV. and not using airplay.
I did just try it the way you do it, and my frame rate did switch.


take a look at plex or infuse.
both are just a little more polished than the way you do it.


Plex requires running an extra program on your Mac, but as long as the files can already be played by the aTV it doesn't use much. (it sounds like you're good to go there)
It is much more full featured than infuse, but you'll need to try both to see which one you like

Infuse does require a paid upgrade to play certain kinds of files, but it handles a lot natvely.

for Plex
-create a free account
-dowload the server - https://www.plex.tv/media-server-downloads/
-move it to applications, and launch
-your web browser will open (or hit "open plex") in the menu bar (the plex server will run there)
-in the web page, go to settings (tool icon in the top right) (or select preferences in the menu bar drop down)
-on the left, find "settings -> general" and claim server
-scroll down more on that page and "manage -> libraries"
-- "add library"
-- select "movie type" and name if you want. hit next
-- find the folder with all your movies (it should work on an entire drive, you might have to make a folder)

on you other devices, get the app and log-in, your movies should all be there, with nice posters and names.
You can even watch in your web browser.


For infuse, you need to share the drive from the Mac OS.
make sure you hit options, and choose "SMB (windows file sharing)"

Share Mac files with Windows users

To let users connect to your Mac from a Windows computer, turn on file sharing and enable SMB sharing.

support.apple.com

Then in the infuse app, add the share

Both have pretty detailed instructions for how to add media and get them working properly
infuse - https://firecore.com/infuse
plex - https://www.plex.tv

Thats a brilliant explanation.... I will give it a go

 

[jkeep]

the way you do it should work, it's actually just sending the file over.
The file is playing on the aTV. and not using airplay.
I did just try it the way you do it, and my frame rate did switch.


take a look at plex or infuse.
both are just a little more polished than the way you do it.


Plex requires running an extra program on your Mac, but as long as the files can already be played by the aTV it doesn't use much. (it sounds like you're good to go there)
It is much more full featured than infuse, but you'll need to try both to see which one you like

Infuse does require a paid upgrade to play certain kinds of files, but it handles a lot natvely.

for Plex
-create a free account
-dowload the server - https://www.plex.tv/media-server-downloads/
-move it to applications, and launch
-your web browser will open (or hit "open plex") in the menu bar (the plex server will run there)
-in the web page, go to settings (tool icon in the top right) (or select preferences in the menu bar drop down)
-on the left, find "settings -> general" and claim server
-scroll down more on that page and "manage -> libraries"
-- "add library"
-- select "movie type" and name if you want. hit next
-- find the folder with all your movies (it should work on an entire drive, you might have to make a folder)

on you other devices, get the app and log-in, your movies should all be there, with nice posters and names.
You can even watch in your web browser.


For infuse, you need to share the drive from the Mac OS.
make sure you hit options, and choose "SMB (windows file sharing)"

Share Mac files with Windows users

To let users connect to your Mac from a Windows computer, turn on file sharing and enable SMB sharing.

support.apple.com

Then in the infuse app, add the share

Both have pretty detailed instructions for how to add media and get them working properly
infuse - https://firecore.com/infuse
plex - https://www.plex.tv

Infuse all working ...... BLOODY MARVELLOUS

 

[waw74]

Infuse all working ...... BLOODY MARVELLOUS

Glad you like it.

if you're stuck at home bored with some extra time (what are the chances of that these days ) give plex a shot.
If your old way to infuse was 2 steps forward, infuse to plex is one more after that.

you can have both installed at the same time.
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[jkeep]

OK, I have infuse working fine on my ATV through may MacBook as my MacBook
is connected wirelessly to my airport TC which has an external HD plugged in with
all my movies on but when I'm at work with my MB my wife can't watch movies
on the ATV as her iPad can't see my HD or TC.
If i bought a NAS drive & stored all my movies on that could she watch then on
the ATV ie would infuse recognise the NAS drive

 

[priitv8]

I think the easiest way would be to enable her iPad to see TC and its disk.
This is one option, but there are a number of apps for that:

Easily Browse your Time Capsule Files with iPad / iPhone

Easily connect to your Apple Time Capsule with your iPhone / iPad. Browse your files and folders with ease with FileBrowser. Follow our guide.

www.stratospherix.com

 

[waw74]

If i bought a NAS drive & stored all my movies on that could she watch then on
the ATV ie would infuse recognise the NAS drive

Yes, just make sure it has SMB, samba, or windows file sharing (all 3 are the same thing, just different names, so if you see any of those words, you're good.) You'd have to work pretty hard to find one that doesn't support it though.

and for my continued plex plug.
Some NAS devices can run plex, They just don't have the processing power to convert on the fly, so your files would need to be aTV compatible, which it sounds like you are.

I also just realized, you might be able to enable SMB on the time capsule, meaning you don't need another NAS.
the aTV would talk directly to the TC.

SMB Share via Time Capsule / AirPort Extreme

I’m facing issues connecting to an SMB Share running on my Time Capsule (or alternatively another AirPort Extreme). On first attempt Infuse fails to acces the share / play the movie. After force quitting Infuse 6 and retrying to access the movie it works. Quire annoying as a workaround...

firecore.com

 

[priitv8]

Yes, just make sure it has SMB, samba, or windows file sharing (all 3 are the same thing, just different names, so if you see any of those words, you're good.) You'd have to work pretty hard to find one that doesn't support it though.

Indeed he does not need to spend on NAS, as he already has a TimeCapsule, complete from factory with AFP and SMB file sharing and media stored on it. Performance-wise it should also pull off 1080p movie sharing. TC is quite comparable to low-spec ARM-based NASes.
Installing Infuse Pro on wife's iPad is 10 times cheaper ($25) than getting a most basic NAS. Non-pro is free, to get started and is only crippled on video and audio formats side, not network connectivity side.

 

[HDFan]

when I'm at work with my MB my wife can't watch movies
on the ATV as her iPad can't see my HD or TC.

If she can't see your Time Capsule what network is she using to connect to the internet?

 

[jkeep]

If she can't see your Time Capsule what network is she using to connect to the internet?

It’s all on the same network

 

[waw74]

If she can't see your Time Capsule what network is she using to connect to the internet?

I think, she can't see it because the iPad doesn't have a file browser or support AFP
not that they physically can't communicate

He has been using Time capsule sharing via AFP,
adding that folder to the mac
then using the Mac to share the same folder via SMB.

with the Mac out of the picture, there is no SMB share, so the iPad can't see the time capsule.

By enabling SMB directly on the time capsule, the iPad should see it.
Just have to point the iPad/aTV to the time capsule share instead of the one from the Mac.

 

[jkeep]

I think, she can't see it because the iPad doesn't have a file browser or support AFP
not that they physically can't communicate

He has been using Time capsule sharing via AFP,
adding that folder to the mac
then using the Mac to share the same folder via SMB.

with the Mac out of the picture, there is no SMB share, so the iPad can't see the time capsule.

By enabling SMB directly on the time capsule, the iPad should see it.
Just have to point the iPad/aTV to the time capsule share instead of the one from the Mac.

I’ve tried finding the SMB in Time Capsule can anybody point me to it please

 

[priitv8]

I’ve tried finding the SMB in Time Capsule can anybody point me to it please

There is nothing to point at. It is on port 445 at the IP address of your TC.
But you don't need to know it. Infuse does.
And then only add this share to Infuse and you're done.

 

[jkeep]

Thank you everybody for your assistance.
I am going to have a couple of hours messing around
at weekend & set everything up.

Jeff

 

[Wolfpup]

airplay is not perfect. and it normally has less than optimal results.

you say..."a movie in Apple tv on my MacBook on my tv.'
you're watching something in the TV app on your Mac? and outputting it on the TV?
how exactly are you doing that?
direct video cable -- the Mac can't auto match frame rates.
airplay -- see above, also can't match frame rate this way either.

if you're on a direct cable from your Mac, you can manually adjust the frame rate, but it still probably won't match the video

How to view monitor refresh rate in macOS?

I just purchased a Dell P2175Q monitor for my 15" MBP w/Touchbar. I'm connecting with a USB-C to DisplayPort cable, but when I go to Apple > System Preference > Displays, there is nothing about the

apple.stackexchange.com

Why don't you use the TV app on your aTV?
Netflix and prime is working like they should, the TV app will as well.



if you're playing your own media, airplay really isn't the answer.
Take a look at Plex, infuse, or VLC.

all 3 are free, Plex and infuse both have the option to pay for additional features.

With Plex you have to run a server on your computer, it categorizes all your files, and adds descriptions, personnel, and artwork
you then get the Plex app for all your devices, (iOS, iPad, tvOS, Roku, android, Mac, windows, linux, and most smartTVs)
if the player can handle the file as is, the sever sends it on, if not it converts to something that works.
it's also nice, because since it's server/client, it doesn't care which client you're on, start a movie on aTV, stop, and pick it up on your phone.
and as long as both server and client have internet, it will work, even if they're not on the same network. (bandwidth permitting) (you do have to enable, and possibly troubleshoot)
Plex is pretty close to your own personal Netflix.
your friends can also make an account, and you can share with them,
With the paid level, you can even sync media to your mobile device,

infuse is similar, but it all happens on the aTV.
you share folders on your computer, and infuse will categorize.
there is some sharing of configs between aTVs on the network, but I'm not sure how much.
remote viewing, sharing with friends, and syncing to your mobile doesn't exist in this app.
you can also turn off the metadata, and just browse files.

VLC is just a player.
you can browse shared folders. and then play files.

Can’t you just get the files on the PC in a format AppleTV supports and stick them in itunes and serve them from there, without third party software?

 

[jkeep]

Can’t you just get the files on the PC in a format AppleTV supports and stick them in itunes and serve them from there, without third party software?

That what I was doing & that was causing jittery movies. I now use infuse which I am well impressed with.
Ive even ordered a nap drive to store all my movies so I don't have to use my mac