Apple TV+ Series 'The Morning Show' on Filming Hiatus Due to Coronavirus Concerns

[CE3]

Not sure what the big deal is. Influenza is out there killing people too. Sure, half of the population is vaccinated against the flu, and COVID has a mortality rate 30 times higher. But it's the same.

Right now health officials are estimating the COVID-19 could be 10 to 15 times more leathal than seasonal flu. Hopefully we still have the opportunity to stay ahead of it. I don't think people should panic, but this is a big deal and should be taken seriously.

 

[bpeeps]

People act as if the existence of a bad thing that kills more people is justification to ignore this as a real threat. As if there can only be 1 leading cause of death and the rest don't count.

It's like trying to understand a flat-earther's point of view. The willingness to simply toss aside easily verified facts that don't support of your own opinions is something I can't even wrap my head around.

I think the argument is people are largerly unprepared for something that affects more people annually (the flu), so why are they going so overboard hording things like toilet paper and water bottles because of coronavirus. Most people don't even know WHY they're buying toilet paper. They just are becuase other people are doing it. Your tap isn't going to stop working, your water isn't going to be turned off. Chill out!

We have the easiest solution to reduce flu deaths by way of herd immunity with the flu vaccine. Yet less than 40% of the adult population even bothers with the flu vaccine every year. It's a bit comical how much we don't care about the flu, especially after we just went through one of the most severe flu seasons of the past DECADE.

Here in LA, most people aren't prepared for a major earthquake after being told over and over of the basic supplies every household should have. But they sure do make sure to get prepared for a viral outbreak with completely unnecessary supplies. It's the strange dichotomy over what to take action over and the weird choices people make that throw others through the loop.

That being said, I fully believe this pandemic is serious. I'm washing my hands and limiting contact with large groups of people. But I'm also continuing to live my life and not freak out that Costco is sold out of 'who cares'. I don't buy into the media sensationalism that most of America is succumbing to.

 

[MEJHarrison]

But I'm also continuing to live my life and not freak out that Costco is sold out of 'who cares'.

I hear the Costco 10 minutes away is a madhouse with insane lines. Yet the Safeway that is a 10 minute walk away has toilet paper, what for me is a comfortable amount of people to be around, reasonable lines. People aren't thinking, they're just reacting. They're too lazy or busy or stupid or whatever to do some basic research, they're getting conflicting information from sometimes unreliable sources and word of mouth, an odd percentage seem morally opposed to anything that has the word "science" attached to it , and they don't know what to do, so stocking up is something to do. Nevermind that crowding into a Costco probably isn't the greatest idea right now. At least they can post about it on Facebook and share their photos on Instagram.

 

[LizKat]

I simply do not understand when all of these things on "hiatus" think they're coming back. We have colleges near me closing until the end of April - what do they think is going to happen by then? I don't understand. The vaccine is 18 months away. If they are waiting for the virus to go away, are we going to be on shutdown for the next two years? Because it won't be going away magically in a month or two.

Slamming down hard on exposure in the few weeks before cases expand exponentially helps keep medical resources from being overwhelmed.

Most cases will be minor but for the ones that are not, hospitalization and use of a ventilator are generally required to try to save the life of someone who ends up with a bilaterial pneumonia off the exposure. There are only so many ventilators in a hospital, for instance. The need when it occurs is severe and immediate... immediate as in "this guy can't breathe for himself."

The fewer cases like that, presenting at once in a given location, means fewer fatalities due to inability to treat the patient adequately.

 

[farewelwilliams]

probably far easier to reverse quarantine (quarantine healthy elderly/high risk individuals) and let the virus ride it out among the rest of the population.

 

[sw1tcher]

probably far easier to reverse quarantine (quarantine healthy elderly/high risk individuals) and let the virus ride it out among the rest of the population.

That would work if the elderly didn't need to be cared for (the epicenter of Washington's outbreak is the Life Care nursing home in King County), didn't need to go out for routine doctor or hospital visits (e.g. dialysis), pick up medicine (for high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc.) from local pharmacies, buy groceries (elderly are usually on a fixed budget so they may not be able to afford to stock up on 2 months of supplies)...

Plus, being locked up in isolation is not good for the elderly. They already experience feelings of loneliness and isolation as is. They're the demographic that need to be socially active the most. For the elderly, social isolation can lead to depression, health problems, and shorter life expectancies.

It is a really bad idea to let the infected run around infecting others. That's how you get a pandemic.

 

[farewelwilliams]

That would work if the elderly didn't need to be cared for (the epicenter of Washington's outbreak is the Life Care nursing home in King County), didn't need to go out for routine doctor or hospital visits (e.g. dialysis), pick up medicine (for high blood pressure, cholesterol, etc.) from local pharmacies, buy groceries (elderly are usually on a fixed budget so they may not be able to afford to stock up on 2 months of supplies)...

if they have trouble doing all of that, they're already in the right place for quarantine (senior care)

 

[sakurarain]

Season 2 of “For all mankind“ and “See” are still in plan as scheduled?

 

[A MacBook lover]

Flu killed 37,000 in the USA alone last year. 8000 so far this year with 100,000+ cases

Meanwhile cornacircus has 35~ Deaths in the US. 4000 worldwide, and Apple is reopening Apple stores in China.

Gyms are still packed, people still traveling....welcome to reality people.

 

[Brien]

Ok at this point just cancel everything for a couple weeks and the virus will die out. Good grief. Seems like thats where its headed anyway.

You called it.

 

[cbaca51]

Season 1 was amazing. Can’t wait for season 2. Sucks this is getting delayed but safety first!

 

[Bandaman]

If everyone just stayed inside for a few weeks this thing would literally die out in ... a few weeks.

 

[Angelus]

As a front line Emergency Physician, who’s department is overcrowded with the normal ED bread and butter, I support any measure which will stop my health system collapsing.

To downplay this by saying it’s just a cold or the flu is worse, doesn’t help.

If all of my department, is off sick/self isolation, who will care for the patients who still come in with MIs, appendicitis, trauma??? The day to day ED business does not just go away and theres no hidden supply of extra beds or ventilators. We need to flatten the curve.

 

[LizKat]

If everyone just stayed inside for a few weeks this thing would literally die out in ... a few weeks.

A quarantine approach might still be possible in some areas that are relatively sparsely populated, where there are only a handful of cases in community. There is one case in my county now and the public health authorities are indeed trying to track contacts, hoping to be able to isolate potential case areas and initiate one or more quarantines. The county is quite rural and has only a few large towns, with a total pop under 50k and an average pop density of around 30 people per square mile.

In more urban settings, once a few cases exist then it quickly becomes impractical to try to contain spread of the virus so it's down to mitigation efforts -- washing hands, avoiding touching the eyes, mouth, nose; and as you say, staying inside or at least maintaining ideally six feet between human beings when around other people, in order to minimize the virus being able to make the leap to a new host.

This virus often manifests with mild or no symptoms, so even if somewhat less contagious than other viruses, it makes up for that by its under-radar way of being able to infect without giving a carrier or potential recipient any heads-up about it.

The covid-19 virus is different to seasonal flu in a few ways, including what kind of pneumonia its severely ill hosts end up experiencing. This was a pretty good article about the details of what happens to the lungs of those who become very ill from this particular coronavirus.

Coronavirus: what happens to people's lungs when they get Covid-19?

Respiratory physician John Wilson explains the range of Covid-19 impacts, from no symptoms to severe illness featuring pneumonia

www.theguardian.com

Back on the thread topic, it's probably going to surprise all of us how disruptive the track of this pandemic will have been in terms of personal and economic inconvenience or hardship by time the virus yields to a vaccine or fails to thrive in enough new hosts to stay relevant as a public health threat. But it's clear from the scope of recent and official announcements about limits on public gatherings etc. that these are not responses to a regular ol' flu virus.

Weird in the meantime to think how many things we just take for granted (like production of new episodes of TV series, and the appearance in store shelves of our favorite breads and fresh produce not to mention the now notorious bottled water and toilet paper).

 

[Bandaman]

A quarantine approach might still be possible in some areas that are relatively sparsely populated, where there are only a handful of cases in community. There is one case in my county now and the public health authorities are indeed trying to track contacts, hoping to be able to isolate potential case areas and initiate one or more quarantines. The county is quite rural and has only a few large towns, with a total pop under 50k and an average pop density of around 30 people per square mile.

In more urban settings, once a few cases exist then it quickly becomes impractical to try to contain spread of the virus so it's down to mitigation efforts -- washing hands, avoiding touching the eyes, mouth, nose; and as you say, staying inside or at least maintaining ideally six feet between human beings when around other people, in order to minimize the virus being able to make the leap to a new host.

This virus often manifests with mild or no symptoms, so even if somewhat less contagious than other viruses, it makes up for that by its under-radar way of being able to infect without giving a carrier or potential recipient any heads-up about it.

The covid-19 virus is different to seasonal flu in a few ways, including what kind of pneumonia its severely ill hosts end up experiencing. This was a pretty good article about the details of what happens to the lungs of those who become very ill from this particular coronavirus.

Coronavirus: what happens to people's lungs when they get Covid-19?

Respiratory physician John Wilson explains the range of Covid-19 impacts, from no symptoms to severe illness featuring pneumonia

www.theguardian.com

Back on the thread topic, it's probably going to surprise all of us how disruptive the track of this pandemic will have been in terms of personal and economic inconvenience or hardship by time the virus yields to a vaccine or fails to thrive in enough new hosts to stay relevant as a public health threat. But it's clear from the scope of recent and official announcements about limits on public gatherings etc. that these are not responses to a regular ol' flu virus.

Weird in the meantime to think how many things we just take for granted (like production of new episodes of TV series, and the appearance in store shelves of our favorite breads and fresh produce not to mention the now notorious bottled water and toilet paper).

I feel like I'm in a dream but I can't wake up. This whole thing is surreal. It's probably a great time to buy stocks though.

 

[LizKat]

I feel like I'm in a dream but I can't wake up. This whole thing is surreal. It's probably a great time to buy stocks though.

Heh, maybe not quite yet. I'm gonna just self-quarantine with one eye on the markets and the other on the episodes, one at a time, of the Apple TV+ fare that I haven't explored yet.

"Buy popcorn" is probably a good tip though. Aside from sheerly medical issues, this thing ain't over on the economic effects side of things, and the political fallout hasn't even begun.

 

[Ar40]

Filming on Foundation has been postponed as well - that's in Ireland - where it makes much more sense to do that. The disease is following Italy's trajectory in Ireland.

 

[unobtainium]

Flu killed 37,000 in the USA alone last year. 8000 so far this year with 100,000+ cases

Meanwhile cornacircus has 35~ Deaths in the US. 4000 worldwide, and Apple is reopening Apple stores in China.

Gyms are still packed, people still traveling....welcome to reality people.

So incredibly dumb. Do you realize that coronavirus JUST started spreading in the US, unlike flu which had an entire year to kill that many people? Further, do you realize that the flu mortality rate is an estimates based on epidemiological models, whereas the coronavirus death rate is based on only the very limited number of tests that have been performed in the US? We won’t be able to make a direct comparison between the mortality rate of these two diseases until a year from now at the earliest.

 

[w5jck]

So overblown! Geez

Perhaps you are young and in good health and think this is no threat to you. But what if in your terrible attitude causes you to get infected and even though you survive you manage you infect your parents, grandparents, family, friends, and unsuspecting strangers, some of whom die? Surely you are not that callous nor so ignorant that you don't understand the damage that can be caused by careless attitudes and unwitting carriers (Typhoid Marys). If you hurry you can still catch a plane to northern Italy to spread your nonsense among the dead and dying...

 

[A MacBook lover]

8000 people dead from regular flu, and were only 3 months in.

Perhaps you are young and in good health and think this is no threat to you. But what if in your terrible attitude causes you to get infected and even though you survive you manage you infect your parents, grandparents, family, friends, and unsuspecting strangers, some of whom die? Surely you are not that callous nor so ignorant that you don't understand the damage that can be caused by careless attitudes and unwitting carriers (Typhoid Marys). If you hurry you can still catch a plane to northern Italy to spread your nonsense among the dead and dying...

 

[routine_analyst]

This show started off odd, then warmed up.. then was strong.. then made me realize how vapid and narcissistic people must be to empathize with these losers. Not only are the characters themselves sociopaths, but the actors are as well. Watching Jennifer cry constantly over tiny **** made me question why I was subscribed to this. Oh that's right... free trial.

 

[Jimmy James]

If this runs rampant then it overruns the medical system and those with more serious issues get delayed or degraded care. Even if only a small percentage seek care.