Now I remember... particularly liked the scene where Bartlett and Charlie are chasing that plane down the runway, guns blazing, car on fire, chased by zombies which then explodes as they fall into a black hole, killing all the clone Bartletts and stopping the deadly mutagenic virus plague by reversing the polarity. They should def reboot that show, and get JJ Abrams in too. And that Batman guy.You obviously did not watch The West Wing, it was non stop action!
I felt this way till season 4 where the show runner and writers have clearly declared that they know better than the source material. I've been super impressed with The Expanse seasons 1 through 3 but season 4 will be my last. I made the mistake of not ditching Game of Thrones after season 4 and held onto the deteriorating show till halfway through season 6 where I couldn't take it anymore. The Expanse is on the same trajectory and I'm jumping ship now.I can only hope that Apple’s Foundation series can measure up to The Expanse, with or without story changes.
I don't think we're watching the same trailer. The one I watched has a storyline and characters that do not appear in any Asimov book, which I find strange, seeing as how that's what it's supposed to be based on. Or perhaps it's based on that other Foundation series by Frank Asimov.I don't get that at all from the trailer. I think you just want to argue about it
Huh?I felt this way till season 4 where the show runner and writers have clearly declared that they know better than the source material. I've been super impressed with The Expanse seasons 1 through 3 but season 4 will be my last. I made the mistake of not ditching Game of Thrones after season 4 and held onto the deteriorating show till halfway through season 6 where I couldn't take it anymore. The Expanse is on the same trajectory and I'm jumping ship now.
I thought they where consultants... anyway doesn't change the fact that season 4 went off script and they changed things that didn't need to be changed and was truly puzzling why it was changed and Alex dying just sealed the deal.Huh?
Do you not realize the authors are on the writing team for the show...?
I would not expect them to follow the 80 year-old books all that closely. This will likely be a “retelling” of the story with shifts in events and characters at the least.I am so confused by that trailer. It didn't look bad, per se, but to say that was "based on the Foundation books" feels... dubious, at best. "Inspired by" is probably the right phrase there.
It looks like maybe they started from Forward the Foundation, because Seldon isn't a young man but isn't ancient either? But then mixed in the downfall of the empire from Foundation itself? But Forward heavily features the humanform robots who don't appear to be anywhere in that trailer, but I guess that doesn't mean they're not in the show...
Mainly I'm just confused. This looks really interesting, but I kinda get the feeling I'll enjoy it more if I go in not expecting Foundation.
Haters will hate, but TV+ is steadily adding quality programming. I introduced my sister to it and she is hooked on several programs ?
And some of us really liked Schmigadoon. It's OK, we don't all have to have the same taste.so far almost 100% of Apple TV Plus are top notch.
except from Losing Alice, Schmigadoon, Dickinson.
excluding documentary and kids.
Yes the problem of sweeping statements and the assumption that your tastes are the pinnacle of entertainment. I adore Dickinson but can see why some people won't like it. Both Central Park and Schmigadoon are not to my taste but I understand not every show is for me and AppleTV is trying to build a library that will have something for everyone.And some of us really liked Schmigadoon. It's OK, we don't all have to have the same taste.
I thought they where consultants... anyway doesn't change the fact that season 4 went off script and they changed things that didn't need to be changed and was truly puzzling why it was changed and Alex dying just sealed the deal.
Look it's a fine show if you never read the books, it's getting into frustrating territory if you did considering what a great job they did seasons 1 through 3.
Best West Wing episode eva!Now I remember... particularly liked the scene where Bartlett and Charlie are chasing that plane down the runway, guns blazing, car on fire, chased by zombies which then explodes as they fall into a black hole, killing all the clone Bartletts and stopping the deadly mutagenic virus plague by reversing the polarity. They should def reboot that show, and get JJ Abrams in too. And that Batman guy.
Now you have me interested in finding out more about Dickinson ?Yes the problem of sweeping statements and the assumption that your tastes are the pinnacle of entertainment. I adore Dickinson but can see why some people won't like it. Both Central Park and Schmigadoon are not to my taste but I understand not every show is for me and AppleTV is trying to build a library that will have something for everyone.
Please for the love of God don'e Poz/F-Up this adaption. The Foundation is too important to be sacrificed of the alter of wokeness, like so many others.![]()
Apple TV+ today shared the official trailer for highly-anticipated sci-fi series "Foundation" ahead of its premiere on September 24.
Based on the best-selling novels by Isaac Asimov, Apple says "Foundation" is an epic saga chronicling a band of exiles on their monumental journey to save humanity and rebuild civilization amid the fall of the Galactic Empire."Foundation" stars Emmy Award nominees Jared Harris and Lee Pace, alongside Lou Llobell, Leah Harvey, Laura Birn, Terrence Mann, Cassian Bilton, and Alfred Enoch.
The first episode of "Foundation" will be released on Apple TV+ on September 24, followed by one new episode weekly every Friday. Series writer and showrunner David Goyer hopes to tell the story over the course of 80 episodes.
Apple TV+ costs $4.99 per month, with a free seven-day trial available, or a longer trial available with the purchase of select new Apple products.
Article Link: Apple TV+ Shares Trailer for Sci-Fi Series 'Foundation' Ahead of September 24 Premiere
I stand by my comment that the Foundation books would not translate well to screen without significant changes. I didn't explain very well though, especially what I mean by action (see next paragraph) and I and others mean that they are "mostly talking". People have been trying to make the Foundation series into movies or shows for years without being greenlit. That doesn't necessarily mean anything but there's a reason so few shows have been based on works by writers like Asimov or Heinlein. They are difficult to translate to the screen (which means they don't make good shows without many changes).And you know that based on all the unchanged screen versions of Foundation?
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There's well-written dialogue between engaging characters - and then there's cardboard cutout characters from the 1940s delivering great stodgy chunks of exposition. I'm afraid that the original "Foundation" trilogy tends more towards the latter - which isn't such a bad thing in a novel (where it doesn't make such a difference if the descriptions have quote marks around them). That's not to question its position as a classic SF novel that helped shape modern SF - but it makes (say) Dune look action-packed and full of snappy dialogueSomeone once said "There's no action in Asimov books - it's all talking!"
The reply was "The talking is the action!"
That West Wing thing.... talk talk talk! Who's going to watch that?
I hope nobody is expecting or wanting the Foundation show to be like the books in anything but the broadest terms.I am so confused by that trailer. It didn't look bad, per se, but to say that was "based on the Foundation books" feels... dubious, at best. "Inspired by" is probably the right phrase there.
It looks like maybe they started from Forward the Foundation, because Seldon isn't a young man but isn't ancient either? But then mixed in the downfall of the empire from Foundation itself? But Forward heavily features the humanform robots who don't appear to be anywhere in that trailer, but I guess that doesn't mean they're not in the show...
Mainly I'm just confused. This looks really interesting, but I kinda get the feeling I'll enjoy it more if I go in not expecting Foundation.