Thats what these are for http://store.apple.com/us/product/H9139VC/A/kanex-atv-pro-hdmi-to-vga-adapter-with-audio-support
We have just started deploying Apple TV's, Macs and iPads to our teachers. Loving it. Airplay just gives them so much freedom.
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Apple TV Update 6.1 Allows AirPlay Discoverability Over Bluetooth
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Thats what these are for http://store.apple.com/us/product/H9139VC/A/kanex-atv-pro-hdmi-to-vga-adapter-with-audio-support
We have just started deploying Apple TV's, Macs and iPads to our teachers. Loving it. Airplay just gives them so much freedom.
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I was very optimistic this morning, would check this out. But, no success so far. I know there is some wifi connectivity between my phone and the atv as atv can be seen on Fing. And Bluetooth is on and OK on both. Still no Airplay identity showing on phone. Limitations?
I was very optimistic this morning, would check this out. But, no success so far. I know there is some wifi connectivity between my phone and the atv as atv can be seen on Fing. And Bluetooth is on and OK on both. Still no Airplay identity showing on phone. Limitations?
When you have limited resources as is the case with all companies, you need to have priorities. For everything that you 'do' there will always be something that you don't do. It's very easy to say they should have done this a long time ago but that would have meant not doing something else that someone else would have said the same thing about.
It irks me when people see the iPhone 5s (or any other evolution of a product) and say things like, "this is what it should have been like from the start". It's called evolution and we should all be thankful for it or we would all still be single cell organisms.
Agree with you in some ways. Arguable whether they are half-assing it, are extremely conservative, or are just freaks who cherry pick random features to develop (while leaving out low hanging fruit).
But yeah, things should be able to stream directly from devices.
I think it will happen when someone else has it working well and it's popular. Intel Widi exists, and works well (and os essentially lag free) but only for the .01% of PC users that know about it, have a compatible receiver, and use it. When there are enough users who use that, or use Chromecast, and start claiming that their system working better for more users, Apple will start to worry about their bragging rights.
If Apple allowed a more elegant and lag-free connection it would be great for users. As it is now they have a lot of users who use AirPlay even with its low performance. It would also be nice if they opened it up to non-Apple devices.
At some point they'll need to do it for some reason or another (iOS gaming, Apple TV updates, etc). So yeah, that would be the definition of half-assed. But it's also the definition of conservative. Which makes Apple successful, lets them make good products, sometimes great products, which brings us to this site.
You apparently didn't bother to think this through. In fact, your comment is entirely irrelevant to this article. Allowing Bluetooth handshaking does NOT have anything to do with ad hoc streaming. They are two entirely different things. To allow this to happen, ad hoc streaming would have to be added, completely independent of Bluetooth, to the AppleTV software stack. In fact, while this capability would be nice, there is no need for bluetooth to be involved at all, only the ability for the AppleTV to join ad hoc networks, which, again, has nothing to do with Bluetooth.
I just tried this out at work to see what would happen. Basically, I could AirPlay over to the ATV with my iPhone just as I normally would. The ATV doesn't appear in my list of Bluetooth devices from the iPhone. I assume all this is supposed to be transparent to the user, so that I just select the ATV as I normally would. The only difference I guess would be a more stable connection that locks in quicker.
have never even thought for a moment that i needed this feature. it's not low-hanging fruit and i surely never pined over not having it. i have no problem w/ apple's timeline on it.
to me the only relevancy of this ability is to put airplay into other BT devices, unlike the ATV which has a use case of wifi primarily.
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ah yes, apple, the great half-asser....whose half-assed products revolutionized personal computing, desktop publishing, personal music, music & media distribution, cell phones, tablet computing, and laptop design. yes, let the half-assery continue, the lazy good-fer-nothings....
my god. some of you live in such a fuzzy dreamland its amazing you can get out of bed in the morning.
You can connect it via ethernet as well. Our wifi is outside the corp network, but if I plug the Apple TV into an ethernet jack, I can access it from inside the network.
"IP connectivity between both devices"
It's still not clear to me if now - as we can have Bluetooth discovery - can ATV and the other iOS device be on different subnet? My ATV3 and iPad2 are on different subnets and can't get ATV listed as an AirPlay device on iPad. Even if they can see each other, thus there is "IP connectivity between both devices".
For example I get info in xml from ATV when typing http://192.168.0.15:7000/server-info on the iPad with IP 192.168.1.44.
So the quoted piece makes me confused. Of course, Bluetooth is turned on on both end.
It's still not clear to me if now - as we can have Bluetooth discovery - can ATV and the other iOS device be on different subnet? My ATV3 and iPad2 are on different subnets and can't get ATV listed as an AirPlay device on iPad. Even if they can see each other, thus there is "IP connectivity between both devices".
For example I get info in xml from ATV when typing http://192.168.0.15:7000/server-info on the iPad with IP 192.168.1.44.
So the quoted piece makes me confused. Of course, Bluetooth is turned on on both end.
Has to have Bluetooth 4.0. iPad 2 is equipped with Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR.
Further check follow IP port if you use over subnetwork.
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1629
How would it be if they (iPad and a Apple TV, for example) could find each other with bluetooth, but then do the usual AirPlay thing when they are NOT on the same network. We have a wired network and a wireless network here at work, they are both "our" networks, but they are not the "same" network, so if the Apple TV is plugged in to make streaming better the iPad can't find it, because it's in a different 'address space' (assigned IPs vs DHCP). Could they throw that in there?
The Apple TV and iOS device can be on separate IP subnets with this setup, so that would work fine.
Theoretically, yes they could have done that... But it's important to remember that WIFI chipsets are almost universally able to tune to one, and only one, network at a time.
This means that an Apple TV could not be connected to the internet at the same time as it's connected to the ad-hoc network, unless it has an ethernet connection. And the secret to Air-Play is that it usually grabs the content from the internet not your device.
I also suspect that the hardware in the Apple TV just isn't capable of smoothly handling both ethernet and wifi comms at the same time. And even if it were, having an ad-hoc wifi initiated from bluetooth on an internet host is kind of a security nightmare.
Plug an airport express into the wall near the Apple TV. Set it up to create a network. Plug Apple TV into airport express...
Didn't work on company wi-fi
Should I have Conference mode on or off? Didn't work for me. Didn't see the Apple TV as an option on 3rd Gen iPad.
Should I have Conference mode on or off? Didn't work for me. Didn't see the Apple TV as an option on 3rd Gen iPad.
I have just started trying to use Airplay from my iPhone and iPad. When I try it with a TV app like NBC the audio comes through but the video stops playing after whatever ad there is. It shows the ad perfectly then when the episode starts it goes to audio only.
I have AppleTV2 and have completed all recent updates. What am I doing wrong???
I have AppleTV2 and have completed all recent updates. What am I doing wrong???
I wonder if the audio streaming is better over Bluetooth than WiFi.
if Bluetooth could be used to negotiate a direct Wifi connection between the devices, so it would be possible to stream media to an Apple TV even when there's no local WiFi network both devices can connect to.
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if Bluetooth could be used to negotiate a direct Wifi connection between the devices, so it would be possible to stream media to an Apple TV even when there's no local WiFi network both devices can connect to.
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