Starfia
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Logic Pro is a software pillar of the century.
And now its App Store title needs to include a subtitle to preface its subtitle?
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Apple Updates Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro With These New Features
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Logic Pro is a software pillar of the century.
And now its App Store title needs to include a subtitle to preface its subtitle?
Only in App Store. Once downloaded it is just "Logic Pro"
Starfia
macrumors 68000
Right, I know the app's display name is encoded differently than the name as displayed on the App Store.
The question presumably raised is what this says about the App Store; either the state of the culture around it, or – to my mind, more primarily – how it's designed.
How close is it to fostering Amazon-style ramble-filled product titles?
I noticed the two versions of Logic and Mainstage in the App Store, and would like to know... what happens if I install the Creator Studio version, and not my perpetual-license ones? Won't do it myself, just curious if the ACS version would identify a previous perpetual license, or will it point you to start a demo period. Has someone done it?
EDIT: Just tried it with Pixelmator Pro, since the perpetual license version that shows in my App Store app (and the one I have installed) is still 3.7.1, and the ACS version is v4.0. It prompts you to sign up for the free trial, and won't let you create a new image project if you don't accept said trial, so it doesn't identify any existing perpetual license. I assume the same applies for Logic, Mainstage, FCP, etc. Will they update the perpetual license Pixelmator Pro to v4.0? Who knows...?
Stand-alone iWork apps from ACS have the annoying "Learn more about Creators Studio" up sale in the menu bar when clicking on the app name, template library has a "premium" section, but in general function like the previous version, and you can hide the "premium" tools in the tool bar. No need to subscribe to use them regularly.
EDIT: Just tried it with Pixelmator Pro, since the perpetual license version that shows in my App Store app (and the one I have installed) is still 3.7.1, and the ACS version is v4.0. It prompts you to sign up for the free trial, and won't let you create a new image project if you don't accept said trial, so it doesn't identify any existing perpetual license. I assume the same applies for Logic, Mainstage, FCP, etc. Will they update the perpetual license Pixelmator Pro to v4.0? Who knows...?
Stand-alone iWork apps from ACS have the annoying "Learn more about Creators Studio" up sale in the menu bar when clicking on the app name, template library has a "premium" section, but in general function like the previous version, and you can hide the "premium" tools in the tool bar. No need to subscribe to use them regularly.
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Here’s a deeper dive into the new features in Final Cut Pro, Motion and Compressor: https://www.provideocoalition.com/whats-new-in-final-cut-pro-12-and-more/
jdawgnoonan
macrumors 65816
I have no idea. To be honest, it doesn't look like anything has really been updated for Mac. Just some basic transcription and search functions.
It is baffling to me that Motion and Compressor are not fully integrated into FCP at this point.
And multi-language support for captions, not just the *one* language of the Mac-UI. And by the way, the speech-to-text quality is awful, on the level of Whisper. Resolve is best so far. What good is a text search - if the underlying text is not correct? But new icons and Liquid glass are a priority, says Ive.
Dear Apple: In case you need a hint how speech-to text supports multi-languages look no further than PremierePro or ResolvePro.
MacHeritage
macrumors 6502a
No thank you! I prefer them separate when working with them. Most of the time, I only need to work in one of them and therefore have the others closed which saves memory when dealing with large projects etc.
You know they can just exist in tabs - like Davinci Resolve does it. One workflow in one piece of software from start to finish. Plus you can add effects and sounds, and still go back and change the edit if you need to. It's a much, much better system - especially when there is multi-user support on a single system.
The software actively manages the memory that is required to be used during playback. Apple could have led the way with this, especially with background rendering on Apple Silicon. Such a wasted opportunity.
d4cloo
macrumors regular
These FCP features are nice, but what we really need is:
- Automatic audio ducking
- Role-based audio mixer
- Captions to Titles conversion
- Title per-word highlighting (TikTok style)
- A much better keyframing system
Other than that, FCP is a great NLE if you don’t need the advanced compositing and coloring features that Resolve has.
- Automatic audio ducking
- Role-based audio mixer
- Captions to Titles conversion
- Title per-word highlighting (TikTok style)
- A much better keyframing system
Other than that, FCP is a great NLE if you don’t need the advanced compositing and coloring features that Resolve has.
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dumiku
macrumors 6502
Well most feature available in Creator Studio for LP are also available in the Standalone version, the other one are just for AI users. I will keep using the standalone.
amancalledsun
macrumors 6502
Yep, that was a pleasant surprise. As such, I think the transcript search in Final Cut Pro could be useful in my making YouTube Poops when looking for certain words or sentences in doing sentence-mixing or word-splicing.
MacHeritage
macrumors 6502a
Apple would have to rebuild the system then, otherwise, I still say, no thank you. It sounds great in theory but reality probably won't.
I don't want to be encoding projects and dealing with force quitting Compressor or background tasks related, when dealing with a bug or other issue while in the middle of editing or creating in Motion at the same time etc. One would have to kill the whole app, loose work, bringing down the whole preverbal house. Compressor is for encoding only and I prefer it that way.
With the years of experience I have with using these apps and the old FC Studio and old FCP and apps, I prefer separate. If everything just works all the time and there is never an issue...sure...maybe. But that isn't reality at all. There are always bugs and problems that come up. At least one problem with one app doesn't stop all apps from working. Therefore, work can continue in those other apps until the bug is resolved or work around is figured out. Like the bugs I've had with Resolve just stopped me from using the whole thing, making it unusable completely. I never have that issue with Apple's apps. One app has a problem, not a show stopper since everything else still works.
This isn't like Affinity where it makes a lot of sense and works well.
I guess that is another reason why I don't like Lightroom compared to Aperture etc.
MacFan782040
macrumors 65816
It's just baffling that, a $4 trillion company, implements these features at such a snail pace, even if at all.
Hire people. Buy some companies. It shouldn't take THIS long to write the code, right??
At a pace where the entire world consumes media mainly on their phones. Apple's own device!!! While FCP's UI is still designed for 16x9 editing. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???? It's INSANE.