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Maybe I am wrong, but I heard FCP has been abandoned by the PRO community since Premier and Avid are lightyears ahead and can be run on more powerful hardware (wintel machines) which costs less than outdated Mac Pros.

Feel free to correct me.
 
Maybe I am wrong, but I heard FCP has been abandoned by the PRO community since Premier and Avid are lightyears ahead and can be run on more powerful hardware (wintel machines) which costs less than outdated Mac Pros.

Feel free to correct me.

May be true, but there are still major motion pictures being edited on Final Cut. For me it was the choice to pay one time (FCP) vs. perpetually (Adobe) AND the difference in render times on my MBP 15 AMD. Rendering 4K movies is exponentially faster on Final Cut because of optimization. Granted we are just a lowly YouTube channel but we are satisfied with FCP!

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Maybe I am wrong, but I heard FCP has been abandoned by the PRO community since Premier and Avid are lightyears ahead and can be run on more powerful hardware (wintel machines) which costs less than outdated Mac Pros.

Feel free to correct me.

Which comes down to what the PRO community actually is. Is it the "elite" working for film and television and maybe commercials or are other people making money with their editing work also included?

Premiere Pro and Media Composer are not light years ahead when one considers the file based approach FCP X is using and all the advantages of files and meta data.
MC and PPro are still using tracks in their timelines, which was okay when coming from film and video (since it is the most digital equivalent they could think of back then), but FCP X does take advantage of the digital age and how to work with digital data.

And I say that as an MC lover and PPro user, as I have finally switched to FCP X this year.

The Multicam capabilities, even if forgotten in the first version of FCP X, are leagues ahead of MC (which I have used to sync probably thousands of clips in the past decade, by hand then with Plural Eyes).

I am currently editing a music video with 32 angles and I can do that on a 13" rMBP with proxies while playing back 16 angles at the same time with the Library stored on a 2.5" USB 3.0 HDD. Can MC do that?

And look at the search capabilities. Again ahead of MC with all its handmade bins and folders and manual sorting. FCP X can do that automatically if you use tags (still faster than manually creating bins and folders).

MC has its advantages in multi user / multi project environments though, like broadcast networks and production houses, but it is actually slower to do the work.
 
My big question is whether this is the amazing thing shown at CES back in April when a select crowd was NDA'd into secrecy.

Obviously, an incremental update to FCP may not have been it on its own, though it is a pretty huge update PLUS perhaps all these new features coupled with the new MBP touch strip may have justified the fuss.

I too have been putting off a FCP purchase ($500 here in Australia!) and I'm also scared of a new paid product usurping FCP X.
 
Maybe I am wrong, but I heard FCP has been abandoned by the PRO community since Premier and Avid are lightyears ahead and can be run on more powerful hardware (wintel machines) which costs less than outdated Mac Pros.

Feel free to correct me.
Very true. Final Cut Pro was actually really good software before it was neutered and dumbed down for prosumer thinking they ere getting the hottest software that was OSX only. There's still some obscure films being cut onto it, but the majority of professionals went to Premier or Avid, or both. There's some great info over at DV Info.net if you want to read old threads.

By going monthly, Adobe effectively killed any traction FCP could get. It's cheap to get Adobe's tools in the long run, even at $600 a year for the full package, if you're profiting from your work. You always get the latest updates at no additional cost. Plus, you get access to the various stock companies they've bought, their fonts database, professional presence services, et al.
 
There's some great info over at DV Info.net if you want to read old threads.
As in not current?

Sadly elite professionals are the only ones having a say what is good and what is not. Other people earning money with editing and using an application not approved by forum professionals shan't be considered ever.
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There's still some obscure films being cut onto it

Like Whiskey Tango Foxtrott and Focus and other obscure movies. And don't even start on those television series. Or commercials.

If Transformers 16: Age of the Future Jaw is not cut on FCP X, then it is not worth it considering a professional application, as having an easier workflow does not count when it comes to all the other countless applications for video editing.
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By going monthly, Adobe effectively killed any traction FCP could get. It's cheap to get Adobe's tools in the long run, even at $600 a year for the full package, if you're profiting from your work. You always get the latest updates at no additional cost. Plus, you get access to the various stock companies they've bought, their fonts database, professional presence services, et al.


Or 3000 USD in five years compared to 400 USD (for FCP X, Compressor and Motion), minus all that stock footage and such of course.
 
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As in not current?

Sadly elite professionals are the only ones having a say what is good and what is not. Other people earning money with editing and using an application not approved by forum professionals shan't be considered ever.
You've lost me with this post. The individuals on that site are professionals who work in Hollywood, other film areas, music labels, et al. FCP was hardly the industry standard prior to being neutered.
 
The Logic team doesn't seem to get advanced word of products. We'll probably see an update in 6-9 months.
Thanks for your response... its a shame, logic is a good product, yet it seems to get little attention from apple.
 
Whiskey Tango Foxtrott
Low budget filler film.

Low budget. Grossed around $160m. Made budget, but still felt short of being financially successful. P&A budgets are never included in the original budget. You also have to account for royalties through contracts for whoever managed to secure royalties.

And don't even start on those television series. Or commercials.
Such as? Majority of commercials these days are being edited on other NLEs and post production is done with software available on both Windows or OSX, sometimes even Linux.

Transformers 16: Age of the

Wasn't cut with FCPX.

Or 3000 USD in five years compared to 400 USD (for FCP X, Compressor and Motion), minus all that stock footage and such of course.

Updates for how long? What's the upgrade price on a preexisting license? Does the licensing have a fiscal limit? As in, if your profit exceeds xyz amount, you must buy a professional license? The Adobe video suite covers all those Apple software and you're still getting updates year after year. Stock footage and photo is available for commercial use depending on the licensing you pick out. Or you can get them individual a la carte. You can get your Apple software but how long will they support your version? How often are updates pushed out?

If you want to play the film game:

Premier did-

Hail, Caesar
Deadpool
Avatar (in conjunction with Avid)
The Tourist
The Social Network
Gone Girl
 
Very exciting. I love FCP and these improvements look awesome. I only edit casual YouTube videos. no motion or fancy effects. Current version runs great on my MBP. I hope this one has more optimizations to send more to my dGPU

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For you all film editor (not youtube)...I would like your opinions on this update...what say you? More better? Better than PPros? MCs?
 
You've lost me with this post. The individuals on that site are professionals who work in Hollywood, other film areas, music labels, et al. FCP was hardly the industry standard prior to being neutered.
And only Hollywood does count, as it is where the money is printed in higher volume.

If a low budget movie costing 1 million USD (which is a big budget in other countries) is edited on FCP X and many people have earned money from that movie, it does not count, as the budget was less than that of Transformers 17: Age of the Present Jaw Past Due, with its 105 million for actors alone.

Why is someone making money with video editing only considered a professional if a big studio is involved? Can you answer me that?
 
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Thanks for your response... its a shame, logic is a good product, yet it seems to get little attention from apple.

Well, Logic gets pretty regular updates now. It's a great product and an amazing value. So I wouldn't say it doesn't get love from Apple. But the Logic team doesn't seem to get early details about new products, perhaps because they are located in Germany. For instance when the retina screens came out, it took them a while to update the UI.
 
Low budget filler film.


Low budget. Grossed around $160m. Made budget, but still felt short of being financially successful. P&A budgets are never included in the original budget. You also have to account for royalties through contracts for whoever managed to secure royalties.

Focus and Whiskey Tango Foxtrot aren't "Low budget". Whisky Tango Foxtrot was around $30 million and Focus was around $50 million. Financial success is irrelevant, fact is FCP X is growing and the people who have stuck with Final Cut all say it's superior to everything on the market. Those who say otherwise have almost unanimously never used FCP X.
 
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Focus and Whiskey Tango Foxtrot aren't "Low budget". Whisky Tango Foxtrot was around $30 million and Focus was around $50 million. Financial success is irrelevant, fact is FCP X is growing and the people who have stuck with Final Cut all say it's superior to everything on the market. Those who say otherwise have almost unanimously never used FCP X.

But 30 and 50 million USD is low budget for those working on 100 million USD productions, thus they are made blind and cannot conceive people getting less money, because we all know, that the editing department gets so much green when it comes from big budgets, which makes them professional. ;)

Here in Europe you could produce 30 to 50 films with those low budgets, one of those movies probably having more character development than those big budget tentpoles.
 
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With my camera I can film in SRGB or Adobe RGB and I use Adobe RGB, in FCPX 10.3 would you recommend selecting Standard Rec. 709 or Wide Gamut Rec. 2020 colour space?
 
Okay... now THAT's a cool update ! I've just seen the lengthy list of the new features, and videos of it in action, and I'm really thrown on the floor. WOW ! I don't say it often these years, but when they deserve it : congrats, Apple !
 
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